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Intellectual dishonesty in misrepresenting Shia massacres in Pakistan


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In the last 36 hours, 8 people were killed in a bomb blast in Karachi including a single mother and her child, 5 Pashtuns were killed in a bomb blast in a CD market in Peshawar, and just hours ago,  30 Shia Muslims (most of them Hazara Shias) were executed in Mastung, Balochistan. In all the three cases, it were the Taliban and their Takfiri Deobandi partners, the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ, also known as Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, SSP) that proudly took credit for these horrific deeds.

More than the grief of this continual bloodshed by these monsters is the intellectual dishonesty of misrepresenting these incidents and shifting and diverting the focus away from those responsible. In the case of the Shias, social networks are already evidence of the typical obfuscatory rubbish that is used to casually describe away these mass murders; the  real outrage for Pakistan’s “civil society”  is reserved for Americans like Aafia!

The outrage  of our urban elites is limited to  the drone attacks that kill Baitullah Mehsud and Al Qaeda’s multinational mercenaries and, tragically, Pashtun civilian hostages who are used as human shields by the Taliban and Al Qaeda.  It rarely extends to the daily persecution, massacres and oppression of Pakistan’s Shia Muslims in this specific case.

The same Lashkar-e-Jhangvi  that has killed 30 Shia Muslims today are also the ones who are also killing Ahmadi muslims and Barelvi Muslims as well as those Deobandi Muslims who oppose the misuse of their beliefs to bolster the Jihad Enterprise of Pakistan’s military establishment. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is part of the Jihad factory of the ISI that has also developed similar units like Sipah-e-Sahaba, Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) and the main militant outfit with its network of commanders, the Taliban.  Allied with the Al Qaeda,  they all share the same bigoted, misogynist and supremacist views and are an essential part of the foreign and domestic policy of the Deep State (i.e., Pakistan army) for the attainment of “Strategic Depth” in Afghanistan.

Journalists and commentators are already dismissing this incident as “sectarian violence” “sectarianism”, “sectarian conflict”.  Whether they are being ignorant, indifferently or wilfully obtuse is left to the observer.  The media has played a horrible role in misinforming the public and increasing bigotry has done the rest.  Today, few if any are pointing out the obvious contradictions when such massacres are falsely being described as “routine sectarian violence” between Sunnis and Shias.

Case in point. Prominet Barelvi Sunni Muslim scholar, Maulana Sarfaraz Naeemi was killed in a suicide blast in Lahore after he publically opposed the Takfiri Deobandis (Taliban, LeJ) and thier tactics of suicide bombing.  Maulana Hasan Jan, a moderate Deobandi Sunni Muslim was killed for, you guessed it, opposing the Taliban.  Dr. Muhammad Farooq (a friend of Allama Javed Ghamidi) was killed in Swat by the same beasts. These are not isolated cases and are part of the scores of attacks that have killed Sunnis at Sufi shrines since the attacks on Bari Imam (2005) and Jhal Magsi (2005), where scores of Sunni devotees were killed along with Shias by the Takfiri Deobandis of the Sipah-e-Sahaba.  This same nexus of Jihadi groups and Taliban has also killed, persecuted and oppressed the Ahmadi Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Christains of Pakistan.

However, terming it as “sectarian violence” is a dishonest tactic of shifting the blame away from the real culprits:

Those who created these militias (army-ISI) , those who protect them (the Supreme Court) and  those politicians, like Imran Khan and Munawar Hasan, who continue to apologize for them with blatant lies to shift the focus away the Jihad Enterprise.

Imran Khan mantains with a straight face that there was no extremism in Pakistan and no suicide attacks either before 9/11  and none of the pliant interviewers (including Elliot Spitzer of CNN)  bothers to contradict this with the facts  that such attacks took place as early as 1995; a full 6 years before 9/11! Imran Khan is symbolic of the moral decripitude and mendacity of educated Pakistanis whose ignorance, bigotry and identity crisis has made them accept the most outlandish rubbish that protects the dark ambitions of Pakistan’s military establishment.  For these soulless elites, the massacres of Shia Muslims can be explained away with half-truths and outright lies.

The inculcation of Jihadi laboratories in Southern Punjab by the military dictator General Zia ul Haq to create the Sipah-e-Sahaba/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (they are the same) is dishonestly explained away as a anti-feudal uprising against Shia landlords in that area. Well today, the landlords of Jhang are still alive but not the thousands of Shia Muslims who have been killed by the “anti-feudal” Sipah-e-Sahaba all over Pakistan (who have also spared the feudals from other sects).  The category of those Shias killed by the Sipah  includes Pakistanis from all ethnic groups and professions except feudals while the Sipah-e-Sahaba and similar Jihadi groups are awash with funding from the rich urban trader classes of Pakistan as well as their sponsors from Saudi Arabia, UAE and other Arab countries.

The massacre of Shia Muslims in Pakistan is also often misrepresented and justified (yes, justified) as part of an ongoing sectarian battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia.  Completely missing from this dishonest narrative is the role of the Pakistan State and the fact that since Shia Muslims opposed the forced Islamization policies of military dictator Zia ul Haq,  they were made the targets of the State.

The Pashtun Shia Muslims of Parachinar and the Gilgiti Shia muslims opposed the the use of their territory for the purpose of “Strategic Depth” in Afghanistan and Kashmir and  they have been massacred regularly since the 1980’s.

In 1980, hundreds of thousands of Shia Muslims launched a peaceful sit-in protest in the capital city of Islamabad to oppose the  enforcement of the “Saudi Islamic” Zakat and Ushar Ordinance and since then, they have paid the price.

If the continuing massacres of Shia Muslims in Pakistan is justified via these dishonest narratives (how can killing of anyone be justified boggles the mind), then why are the Sunni Muslims (Barelvi, Deobandi, Ahmadi) and religious minorities (Hindu, Christain, Sikhs) being killed by the same perpetrators who are also killing Shia Muslims? The answer is in the question.

However,  an increasing number of Pakistan’s urban educated elite prefer to remain ostriches and dismiss the killings of Shia Muslims as punishment for being Iranian fifth-columnists – for them, the Hazaras Shias undergoing genocide at the hands of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi are not worthy of sympathy.

On Twitter and Facebook, Ahmadi Muslim activists are prominent among those who are blunty condemning the Mastung massacre along with many other Sunni Muslims. This massacre is not about sectarianism; it is about the continued support to Jihadi monsters who are not sparing anyone.  The time for denial has long gone.

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  • Thank you for exposing Pakistani AS WELL AS international media’s dishonesty. They misrepresent the incessant Shia massacres as routine Sunni vs Shia sectarianism. Nothing could be further from truth.

    LeJ terrorist don’t represent Sunnis. They only represent the powers that created them and still support them i.e. army/ISI. It is not Sunni vs Shia. It is ISI-SSP-LeJ vs Pakistan!

  • The bus driver, Khushal Khan, recounted harrowing details of the attack to reporters for two Pakistani TV channels who quickly reached the scene.
    “There was no security on our bus. Eight to 10 attackers armed with Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers stopped the bus and forced all the passengers to get off,” he recalled while speaking to the media.
    “45 passengers were travelling. Some of them managed to escape. I also managed to escape,” he said.
    “The attackers then fled in their vehicle,” he said.

    According to Express 24/7 correspondent Muhammad Kazim, another car was also attacked by gunmen in Quetta, killing two men. The car was reportedly enroute to Mastung to rescue survivors of the attacked bus.

    Meanwhile the Shia Ulema Council has announced a seven-day mourning in the wake of the incident.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/256419/gunmen-attack-bus-in-balochistan-20-killed/

  • It was the deadliest attack against Shias in Pakistan since a suicide bomber killed at least 57 people at a Shia rally in Quetta in September 2010.

    Shia Muslims are a minority in Pakistan. They are mostly ethnic Hazaras and say that nearly 600 of their community have been killed in sectarian attacks since 2002.

    At least 13 people were killed when a suicide bomber struck in the car park of a Shia mosque in Quetta – capital of Balochistan province – during the Eid festival at the end of last month.

    The BBC’s M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says that responsibility for most attacks has been claimed by the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ) sectarian outfit, a predominantly Punjabi group with links to al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

    Police in Balochistan have over the years arrested a number of LJ activists in connection with these attacks. Some of them have been sentenced to death or imprisonment by the courts.

    Our correspondent says both police and the Shia community believe the mastermind behind most of the recent attacks was an LJ commander, Osman Saifullah, who was arrested in 2006 but escaped from a maximum security anti-terrorism prison in the cantonment area of Quetta in 2008.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14992220

    The banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi claimed responsibility for the attack on the bus in calls made to newspapers in Quetta.

    Mastung is considered a hub of the LeJ, a notorious sectarian group that has carried out numerous attacks on Shias across Pakistan.

    http://zeenews.india.com/news/south-asia/28-shia-muslims-shot-dead-by-lej-militants-in-pak_732646.html

  • I agree. It is not Sunni vs Shia. It is LeJ vs Pakistan.

    See their hit list:

    Security sources said some TTP-linked elements had distributed a leaflet in various outskirts of Karachi in the first week of July, carrying a “hit list” of anti-jihadi personalities, threatening that they would be killed along with family members. The pamphlet justified jihad and urged “pure Muslims” to rise up against elements creating problems for jihadis who were described as the defenders of Islam and Pakistan.

    According to the leaflet, the definition of a criminal had been changed in recent times. “Previously, it was used for robbers and dacoits, but after 9/11 the term is being used for those who are sincere with the religion of Islam and want to wage jihad against the forces of the infidel.”

    Those declared “liable to be killed” in the TTP pamphlet, along with the CID’s Aslam Khan, included: Capital City Police Officer Karachi Saud Mirza; CID superintendent Fayyaz Khan; Anti-Violent Crime Unit Chief Farooq Awam; Special Investigation Unit chief Raja Omar Khattab; former Director General of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Wasim Ahmed; Sunni Deobandi scholar Mufti Mohammad Naeem, Shia scholar Mirza Yousuf Baig; and Muttahida Qaumi Movement leader Haider Abbas Rizvi. Television artists and anchors and some Karachi-based journalists were also on the list.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MI21Df02.html

  • We must commend Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry for releasing Malik Ishaq. Their man has delivered. 28 Shia Muslims massacred in one day!

  • Why are human rights champions silent? They must highlight the ongoing massacres of Shia Muslims in the international media.

  • Yet another deadly attack on hazara shia community living in Quetta. and i have no doubts in my mind that taliban ally group behind this iam very sure that there is no American,Indian or Israeli hand is behind this massacre. i wonder why the flamboyant truth teller like zulfiqar mirza is still silent on this issue. like always the revolutionist Imran Khan has no plan to stage sitting strike against this gruesome act of his beloved taliban ? when would the Jamat-e Islami set out rallies to condemn the brutality of their so called heros of faith.? May Allah Crush These Talibans along with every one who supports them. dont worry hazara community these guys often become the victim of u.s led drone attacks so some how Allah is taking your revenge from these beasts.

  • Defending Ejaz Haider (Jhangvi)

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Shameful language! RT @ejazhaider @y2raza you can call me whatever you want and go fuck yourself @Mehmal @Laibaah
    2 hours ago

    AamirRaz AamirRaz ♉
    @ejazhaider Owsum vocab, sir! @Mehmal @y2raza @Laibaah
    2 hours ago

    y2raza sar765
    @ejazhaider @Mehmal @y2raza @Laibaah how abt we call u a sellout, quisling and a vermin ?
    3 hours ago

    ejazhaider ejaz haider
    @Mehmal i know and appreciate; was just telling you my policy regarding trolls/partisans/ideologues and nondescripts @y2raza @Laibaah
    3 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @ejazhaider At least be civil. We all know you are doing namak halaali, like Omar bin Saad. @Mehmal @y2raza
    3 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    RT @ejazhaider @Mehmal thanku 4standing up4me but u can stand down. i don’t give a flying eff about what these trolls write @y2raza @Laibaah
    3 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @Mehmal @y2raza @najamsethi You know what Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman’s life too is under threat. That doesn’t mean he is not MM Alliance!
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @ejazhaider wasn’t doing you a favour Ejaz. I was just setting the record straight 🙂 @y2raza @Laibaah
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @y2raza bhai meray, @ejazhaider only reproduced what he was told by someone. He didn’t analyse anything @Laibaah
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @y2raza oh really? Is that why @najamsethi’s life is under threat? If he were a tool of the establishment, there’d be no threat @Laibaah
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah I don’t know if @najamsethi ever told Asad sb what happened. And I am being honest here. I know what happened and I respect NS
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah I hope one day @najamsethi talks about what really happened back then. I am not at liberty to say anything 🙂
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah “maybe”, “I don’t know” … Asad sb is qualifying while you’re acting as if it’s true. @najamsethi
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah I’ve read the interview. I know Asad sb personally. He’s not saying anything that goes against @najamsethi in any case
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @y2raza I don’t agree with what Ejaz wrote but the way @Laibaah is going on and on against @ejazhaider as if it’s his fault is also wrong
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah and I know the circumstances in which @najamsethi was arrested and what he went through. Obv it’s up to NS to make it public
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah btw, Asad sb didn’t say anything against @najamsethi as such. Someone in Khi gave away Najam’s location and other’s names
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah I don’t have to agree with everything @NajamSethi or @ejazhaider write/say. We all have diff views but I won’t spread lies abt them
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah because I know @ejazhaider well enough to know that he loathes the LeJ and would never incite violence against Shias @najamsethi
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah with all due respect to Asad sb [his brother is my editor in case you didn’t know], I am well aware of @najamsethi’s commitment
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah before discrediting @najamsethi ask the Baloch leaders how Najam was jailed and what he suffered fighting for Baloch rights
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah you’re comfortably sitting wherever you are while @najamsethi fought ‘for’ the Baloch with the Baloch back in the 70s
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah Ms anonymous, please go ask the Baloch leaders who know @najamsethi what they think of him and how much they respect him. Thanks.
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah is that why BB Shaheed was still friends with @NajamSethi even during her last days? @ejazhaider
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah and what is wrong with being @NajamSethi’s children? NS is one of the most respectable journos out there @ejazhaider
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah an FIR should be launched against you for inciting hatred against @ejazhaider
    3 hours ago

    Mehmal Mehmal Sarfraz
    @Laibaah are you out of your mind? you can disagree with what @ejazhaider wrote but how has he incited violence against them?
    3 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Children of @NajamSethi. RT @Mehmal MT @ejazhaider: why’re zaireen buses not provided…..
    3 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @y2raza This man @ejazhaider belongs to the @najamsethi racket of military establishment. Others include malik siraj, urooj zia, mehmal etc
    4 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @Mehmal @ejazhaider The area was protected by Frontier Constabulary. (Hasil Bizenjo on ARY TV).
    5 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @theRealYLH @Mehmal Shame on Yazidi –> @JavidYatoo
    5 hours ago

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @Mehmal @theRealYLH Laant on Malik Ishaq and General Pasha.
    6 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete

  • Dishonesty?!

    They are not being dishonest but very honest! Shias, Barelvis, Hindus, Ismailis, Ahmedis all need to be killed and will be killed to make Pakistan Pak of infidels!

    Please learn to read between the lines when they say the rule of law must prevail! They don’t specify which law and which Constitution. Pakistan ka matlab kya? La ilaha IlAllah!

  • A big misrepresentation that you have used is linking ISI to terrorist orgs such asSSP or LEJ. This is complete and utter rubbish. Both of Ssp and LEJ have been target by Pakistab agencies even before western public had heard of Afghanistan. Taliban is the creation of both CIA and ISI but remember when USA officials were coming to praide them in 80s.

  • @ Anjum:

    Please know the difference in the tenses:

    ‘USA officials were coming to parade them in 80’s’

    ‘Pakistani establishment and media IS supporting them right now’

    If USA did something wrong once upon a time, does not mean you can do it as well! Never saw you arguing secularism, removal of Islamic laws and other things for the reason that US did it too!

  • NadeemfParacha Nadeem F. Paracha
    Two Nation Theory or Sunni nation theory?

    My condolences to my Shia compatriots.

  • You did not even mention bomb blast by Taliban in Peshawar music CD market. Surely an honest ommision mistake, and unfortunate that so much bad stuff going on simultaneously. Deaths of Pathans aren’t any less to mourn.

  • @Berinder, point noted. May I request you to put this in the comments section with the link to an article.

  • Protest to Punjab Government, Y they allowed MAlki Ishaq’s Rallies in Punjab:

    RING/SMS/EMAIL: Do not leave it for others to do

    RANA SANAULLAH: 0321 965 78 78 / 0321 848 2777

    E MAIL: lawministerpunjab@gmail.com

    PRO to Law Minister Kamran 0321 419 89 60

    Perveez Rasheed: Spokes man for Govt of Punjab – 0323 413 2708

    Asim Nyazee : Media rep 0300 5550 737

    asimnyazee@gmail.com

    Ahsan Iqbal: betterpakistan@gmail.com

    IMPORTANT: PL DO NOT BE EMOTIONAL OR RASH; BE POLITE AND FRIENDLY BUT MUST LOGICALLY EXPRESS YOUR CONCERN. They have to take votes from us. They need us and cannot afford make Shia Nation their open enemy.

  • beenasarwar:
    Journalists, stp being glib.ths is not “sectarian violence between Sunni & Shia”.It’s target killing. #Hazara

    sohaibgulbadan Sohaib
    Yet another attack on Hazara Shias. Yet another day my head hangs in shame as a Sunni Punjabi Pakistani.

    tatom2k:
    600 #Hazara #Shia community killed in last 3 years.

    shayanamalik Shayan Malik
    Genocide against Hazara shias continues in Pakistan. The international community is silent http://t.co/MFD0XpJH

    godfatheriv Über Rana
    To Say That Hazara Shia’s Are Irans Armed Wing Is Like Saying, All Muslims Are Terrorists. If @ejazhaider Can Prove hazars killing others!

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Dear @ejazhaider @laalshah congrats, most of those killed were Hazara Shias. the ugly Iranian agents, the cake eaters. http://t.co/1n2FrHuz

    Mustafa_Qadri Mustafa Qadri
    Hazaras protest killings and insecurity in Quetta http://t.co/urzn65Tn One of the most badly affected communities in Pakistan

  • Defending ISI once again:

    ejazhaider ejaz haider
    ques: why have taliban not taken responsibility for rabbani’s killing? ques2: who wud benefit from scuttling of talks given omar’s eid msg?

    Of course, Ejaz did not care to read that the Taliban have already claimed responsibility, according to Reuters who spoke to spox Zabihullah Mujahid: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/20/us-afghanistan-attack-idUSTRE78J3Y820110920

    Great service to ISI by urban fake liberals!

  • Agree that establishgment is behind this massacre of innocent people whether shias,sunni,barelvi,wahhabbi etc,but you cant absolve your own government,they are letting innocent people get killed for nothing from Karachi to Khyber,PPP government is allied with USA and this is how they are protecting their interests by causing violence and riots in Pakistan,This PPP government has failed so miserably yet they are clinging to their seats shame on them, this is the worst government ever,no one is safe today ,there is no sucha thing as Law and Order in Pakistan,what abput 6000 innocent people killed in karachi?were they all shias?there is no MQm and PPP?

  • To all the people commenting who are trying to turn a blind eye to the fact that Shias are being persecuted and killed because of their religious beliefs, please refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutbism The link is about Qutbism, which branched out from the Wahabi sect and is followed by the Taliban, extremist religious clerics and religious groups. This ideology is spreading in the muslim world. Apart from that, this is where intolerance starts: In 1801 and 1802, the Saudi Wahhabis under Abdul Aziz ibn Muhammad ibn Saud attacked and captured the holy Shi’a muslim cities of Karbala and Najaf in Iraq, massacred parts of the Shi’a muslim population and destroyed the tombs of Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Muhammad, and son of Ali (Ali bin Abu Talib), the son-in-law of Muhammad. (see: Saudi sponsorship mentioned previously) In 1803 and 1804 the Saudis captured Mecca and Medina and destroyed historical monuments and various holy Muslim sites and shrines, such as the shrine built over the tomb of Fatimah, the daughter of Muhammad, and even intended to destroy the grave of Muhammad himself as idolatrous. In 1998 the Saudis bulldozed and poured gasoline over the grave of Aminah bint Wahb, the mother of Prophet Muhammad, causing resentment throughout the Muslim world.–http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabi
    “A study conducted by the NGO Freedom House found Wahhabi publications in mosques in the United States. These publications included statements that Muslims should not only “always oppose” infidels “in every way”, but “hate them for their religion … for Allah’s sake”, that democracy “is responsible for all the horrible wars of the 20th century”, and that Shia and certain Sunni Muslims were infidels”—-My question is what are we as Pakistanis doing to stop this extremism and poisonous ideology?

    These are historical facts, not some fairy tales spun by shias. Let’s look at current events. Saudi Arabia is clearly funding and supporting movements and clerics that spread extremist ideology claiming that shias and non-wahabi sunnis are sinners, that they are not “true” muslims, that they have strayed from islam. Shias, being heretics, in their opinion, do not have the right to practice their religion and are not “equal”. Proof: Shia muslims are not allowed to practice their religion in Saudi Arabia i.e. majlis etc is banned. If they do, they are punished and persecuted. Shias are discriminated against, even though there are some provinces in Saudi Arabia where they are in majority. Some much for “equality” amongst muslims. Recently Saudi Arabia sent it’s troops to Bahrain to support the Sunni non-democratic government there to crush the peaceful protests of the majority Shia population–The majority of citizens in Bahrain are Shia. Similarly, the majority Sunni Arab world turned a blind eye when Saddam Hussain persecuted and killed the shias in Iraq–again, Iraq has a majority Shia population. The Arab world also did not intervene or try and stop Saddam’s almost decade long war with Iran–why? Because Iran is a Shia state. This ideology that people do not have the right to practice their faith if they do not agree with you, this disrespect6 for religious differences, this idea that is is ok to kill someone just because you do not agree with them is a poisonous idealogy–it is spreading in the muslim world, it has taken root in Pakistan and it is being funded.

    It’s so easy to sway the already conservative and many times uneducated and poor population to accept this idealogy and actually make them believe they are heros and protectors of Islam if they kills and persecute the “heretics” i.e. anyone who does not agree with their version of Islam. How can any civilized, decent and just human being turn a blind eye to this? Yes, shias and Sunnis are brothers–all muslims are supposed to be brothers and brothers DO NOT KILL brothers, they do not discrimate against their brothers or persecute them. So I request our muslim brothers and sisters, Sunni and others, to take a stand against this cruelty and inhumanity against the minority Muslim shia population in Pakistan and in other parts of the world. Turning a blind eye to this will not make this problem go away.

  • Help Ya Imam e Zamana, the evil yazadei wahabi lahabi devbandi Talibani Alqeada Lashakarey jangvey. All these evil people with the support of saudi’s king and his money to kill shia in Pakistan. May they go to hell.
    Stop innocent Shia Muslim killing in Pakistan

  • This is indeed a tragic incident in a series of tragic incidents perpetuated against the Shia Hazara Community.

    All Jihadi organizations tend to belong to Deobandi/Wahabi mind set, and in turn are sectarian in nature. Left idle for a while from their ‘handlers’, they start looking for local kills. Unfortunately our peaceful Shia brothers tend to be their prime target, but their activities are not limited to them alone, Gojra (Christian) and Ahmedis Mosque in Lahore are other examples of their handiwork.

    Where ever the state has used them as assets, they have left behind a trail of bloody sectarian carnage. This seems to have happened after the Kargil Episode in Gilgit, in the siege of Parachenar for four years, and now with the disappearance of Baloch nationalist. In all these cases, mass murder of Shia’s has coincided with the presence and activities of banned militant organizations.

    The only solution is to catch every single member of these organizations with a vengeance, which cannot be that hard to do, given their highly publicized sermons, publications and gatherings. Yet our establishment and Police seem unwilling to do this, and the bloodshed continues..

  • Some more info: “Beginning with the militant Salafis – fundamentalist conservatives – of Al-Qaeda, they are by and large of Qutbist – a fundamentalist and pan-Islamic political ideology – and Wahhabi – a sub-school of the Hanbali ‘fiqh’ or jurisprudence branch – tradition. Qutbists in particular believe Muslims who suffer from ‘jahiliyyah’ – unconscious corruption by western values and modernism – are valid targets of ‘Jihad’.”..”The militant salafis are also radically anti-shia and anti-republican. Their doctrine clearly states that the shia are not Muslims, that no government is legitimate except for the one anointed by God.

    They uphold that to interpret the Quran is anathema and that the meaning of words and expressions can only be literal. Hence, the Jihad concept is reduced to its militant component and the centuries old theology that divides it into greater and lesser Jihad (the former translating into the effort to comply with Islamic Law, or inner struggle) is disregarded. Both qutbists and wahhabis clash with the Maaturidi and Ashari ‘aqidah’ – or theological schools – traditions for instance, precisely because of their contempt for the metaphysic the eclectic and the esoteric, and their obsession in claiming to know the absolute truth by studying the Qoran.

    The Taliban on the other hand are a neo-Deobandi – a sub-school of the Hanafi fiqh – movement which derives from Islamic revivalist traditions dating back to the anti-colonialist struggle against the British Empire in India but many of the Taliban conscripts originate in Pakistani madrassas financed by international Muslim organisations from Gulf states which inculcated extremist Arab sunni principles.”…”Thus, there is a mix of ideologies but suspicion of al-Qaeda though, seems to be consensual. The more elder deobandis come out of sufi traditions and look down on the militant salafis literal interpretation of the Qoran – namely the controversy of Allah’s physical or metaphysical manifestation, militant salafis being accused of being ‘mujassimah’ i.e. anthropomorphists. A source of veiled uneasiness between deobandis and wahhabis for instance, is the level of attention given to the graves of the “great fallen” such as the Rashiddun (the Caliphs). The deobandi jurisprudence approves of pilgrimages to the graves, the wahhabi does not…both wahhabis and deobandis reject ‘shirk’ (polytheism) ’bidah’ (innovation) in Islam, namely they reject hadiths (extra-qoranic compilations of the words of the Prophet), other than the Hanbali and that of Wahhab. Both accuse shias of aposthasy, both tend to promote religious governments and denounce republican and secular ones and both promote primitive interpretations of sharia and are against the rights of women. All this of course explains why Al-Qaeda was able to so easily establish a partnership with the Taliban’s ‘Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan’.”

  • Zehra Zaidi – I appriciate your comments. You told the history and pinpointed the cause of this sin – the Saudies Rulers. May ALLAH (Subhan u Tala) correct them and if they are not able to correct themselves, then I pray for their destruction in this world and hell in the after world. Aameen

  • […] 1. The Amnesty’s statement misrepresents the ongoing Shia Massacres by the TTP-SSP-LeJ proxies of the Deep State as ‘sectarian violence’. Amnesty states: “Continued failure to address sectarian violence will only exacerbate the general breakdown in law and order in Pakistan….Armed clashes between Sunni and Shi’a militant groups have regularly occurred in past decade.” WRONG! There is no Sunni vs Shia sectarianism in Pakistan. SSP-LeJ-TTP-JeM-LeT terrorists DO NOT represent Sunnis. They represent the institution which created them, i.e., Deep State! This point has been clearly explained in the following LUBP post: Intellectual dishonesty in misrepresenting Shia massacres in Pakistan […]

  • It should be a wake up call for all those religious leaders in particular and other muslim sects in general who have been either supportng the persecution of Christian, Ahmadis and Sikhs or were silent when such terrorist activities were taking place. It can reach your homes and your places of worship. Your children and your families can be victims of such terrorism.

  • Assalamu ‘alaykum, Intellectual honesty demands that the genuine issues should be truthfully addressed by all citizens.The illegalization of using abusive language against the Holiest of Companions-Abubakr,may Allah be pleased with Him,among other Companions,may Allah be pleased with them all, and its effective implementation can foil the attempts to play Iraq card in Pakistan, even if ignorant and illiterate Pakistani citizens are supposedly goaded into unconsciously acting on foreign agenda. Being a Sunni or Ahl-us-Sunnah or People of Sunnah means to follow original Islam of The Companions,may Allah be pleased with them all. Shah Waliullah rahimahullah was one of the greatest Ahl-us-Sunnah saints-scholars in the history of subcontinent. Modern educated Muslims should follow his footsteps.

  • Intellectual honesty also demands that we should be open-minded to alternate explanations. Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall
    I’m really hoping CIA agent Raymond Davis’ arrest and trial is going to blow the lid off CIA covert operations in Pakistan. I find the Mar 1 speech Pakistani prime minister Gilani made to the Assembly – accusing “hostile external elements” of supporting the insurgency in the province of Balochistan – highly significant. http://tribune.com.pk/story/125602/baloch-insurgency-funded-from-abroad-pm/

    Owing to their heavy dependence on the US for political and economic aid, the government has always tiptoed around the CIA “freedom fighters” in the Baloch separatist movement. The reality is that there’s really no way to ascertain whether random acts of terror in the tribal areas on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan are caused by the Taliban, Al Qaeda or the Balochistan Liberation Army. However it’s obvious that the CIA’s role in training and financing Baloch separatists (they get paid $200 a month, $300 for section chiefs) is a major factor in the climate of violence and extreme political and economic instability. Clearly the government of Pakistan is under major pressure to make it stop. Gilani’s public warning suggests that Davis’ arrest has emboldened them to take a firmer stand.http://changinguppakistan.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/another-islamabad-assassination/

  • […] Muhammad Danish Baltistani, 32, left his home in Nawan-Killi (Quetta) for University of Balochistan, where he taught in the Computer Science Department on November 29 only to be carried back home by several men. He was killed. His crime: being Shia. […]

  • Saad Mansoor!! the real Sunni. yes you are right they all must be killed…… as this is what Sunnism is all about, kill christains, ahmadis, shias in short all, and let the world be left only with Sunnis, kudos to your thoughts Pakis……patha nahi kon si QURAN tum logo nay pari hogay jo yeh sab baatein bata thi sain…

  • Here is an example of how some well-wishers of persecuted communities might fall into the trap of false neutrality. The comments in bold offer one such example.

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
    RT @airtiza .@Laibaah1 speaks for all oppressed ethnic/religious groups. @YaAbalFazl @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads
    16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
    @YaAbalFazl she not only highlights Shia killings but also Ahmadis, Baloch etc @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    23 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
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    @YaAbalFazl Bro she is one of the best human rights activist, we shld support @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    23 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
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    @YaAbalFazl Im with her in the cause to end selective morality n condemn injustice @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    26 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
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    @YaAbalFazl other than that @Laibaah1 also highlights persecution of all others as well @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    27 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
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    @YaAbalFazl my frnd nobody knows Shia Muslims r being killed n how! @Laibaah1 highlighted it @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza

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    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @airtiza And when did I ever say otherwise 🙂 I’ve talked and written about more genocides in the world than others @Laibaah1

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 You are being very dishonest and very mean for insinuating that I made this claim when I DID NOT
    6 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 I never made that argument in the first place? WHEN DID I MAKE THAT ARGUMENT?
    8 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    Anyone who denies that Shias, Ahmadis, Christians etc are not being killed or persecuted due to their faith is dishonest to the core!
    13 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl I don’t buy the dishonest argument that all Pakistanis are being killed equally irrespective of ethnicity or faith.
    16 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Next time, if you indulge in false neutrality or denial, please don’t tag me. Thank you.
    18 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 I have had my relatives killed cause we are shia so don’t talk about false neutrality or denial with me PLEASE!
    11 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 That’s your problem, you think I am dictating you when I am not @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    12 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @atifahmads I already know that, again putting words in my mouth 🙁 @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    14 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @atifahmads I never said she wasn’t, why are you putting words in my mouth? @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    16 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 I was trying to argue which method I think would be more productive @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    17 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 I want you to do whatever you think is best, I don’t dictate to anyone @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    18 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @atifahmads Looks like she wants to do a target-killing of me to shut me up 🙂 LOL @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    19 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @atifahmads I’m making an academic argument but she always gets emotional @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    19 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 When did I say anyone is stopping me 🙂 LOL @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    20 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 That’s how it is being taken as my dear, that’s how people think @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    22 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 That will resonate more broadly and people will unite to counter that @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    22 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 We should raise our voice for all crime together because … @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    22 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Its called DESENSITIZATION 🙂 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    23 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 When they hear a bad news on TV, they just change the channel! @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    23 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Its like the Boy that cried Wolf, sadly people in Pakistan are unfazed @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    24 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Cause the more we do, the more people become immune to it @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    24 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Anyone denying it, will always deny it so why bother arguing with them? @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    25 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Nope, but we all know that Shias are being killed, its a reality! @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    25 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 False Neutrality will always be there, there is nothing much you can do about that @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    27 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 And we should just forget about the rest? Is that what you are advocating? @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    29 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 So should we only raise our voice against faith/ethnic-based violence? @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    30 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Every day 100s of ppl die from violent crime, they should be highlighted equally! @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    34 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 Tell me if a Shia like me is killed in a robbery, will they term it Shia-killing ?@Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    35 minutes ago

    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Laibaah1 I agree, but still NO ONE talks about victims of the HIGH CRIME RATE n VICTIMS! @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    36 minutes ago

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    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
    @YaAbalFazl One cannot deal with genocides in a COLD ACADEMIC manner! One ought to be passionate about it. @Laibaah1
    2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
    @YaAbalFazl Dude, I said ‘one cannot be dispassionate’ .. Genocide education should be COMPULSORY! @Laibaah1
    3 minutes ago

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
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    @Laibaah1 Thank you! @naeemshamim @Darveshh
    5 minutes ago

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
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    @YaAbalFazl You’ll know when you lose a dear one, or identify with others empathetically @Laibaah1 @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo
    8 minutes ago

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
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    @YaAbalFazl Heard a Harvard Prof sayng he feels ashamed talkn abt genocides ‘academically’ @Laibaah1 @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo
    10 minutes ago

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
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    @YaAbalFazl GENOCIDE cannot be talked about dispassionately! @atifahmads @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh
    12 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
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    @YaAbalFazl Im with her in the cause to end selective morality n condemn injustice @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    23 minutes ago
    Retweeted by airtiza

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
    @Laibaah1 speaks for all oppressed ethnic/religious groups. @YaAbalFazl @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh

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    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @naeemshamim @airtiza @Darveshh Thank you
    9 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete

    naeemshamim Naeem Shamim
    Yes! “@airtiza: @Laibaah1 speaks for all oppressed ethnic/religious groups. @YaAbalFazl @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh”
    12 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
    @YaAbalFazl GENOCIDE cannot be talked about dispassionately! @atifahmads @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh
    14 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    Anyone who denies that Shias, Ahmadis, Christians etc are not being killed or persecuted due to their faith is dishonest to the core!
    13 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl I don’t buy the dishonest argument that all Pakistanis are being killed equally irrespective of ethnicity or faith.
    16 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Next time, if you indulge in false neutrality or denial, please don’t tag me. Thank you.
    18 minutes ago

    airtiza Syed Ali Irtiza
    @Laibaah1 speaks for all oppressed ethnic/religious groups. @YaAbalFazl @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh
    20 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl If u disagree with our advocacy do it your way but don’t dictate us. @atifahmads @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    20 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
    @YaAbalFazl Im with her in the cause to end selective morality n condemn injustice @Laibaah1 @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    25 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @atifahmads He wants me to raise voice against street crimes to prove my worth. @YaAbalFazl @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    26 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
    @YaAbalFazl other than that @Laibaah1 also highlights persecution of all others as well @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    27 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Do it the way you deem fit. Who is stopping you? @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    27 minutes ago

    atifahmads Atif S Ahmad
    @YaAbalFazl my frnd nobody knows Shia Muslims r being killed n how! @Laibaah1 highlighted it @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @Darveshh @airtiza
    29 minutes ago
    Retweeted by Laibaah1

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Is Shia killing in Pakistan like the boy who cried wolf? Really? @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    29 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl It is YOU who is denying it by equating it with street crimes! @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    29 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Then, what’s your point? Why shouldn’t we raise voice against it? @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    31 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl According to you, I advocate only Shia rights. Is that true? @naeemshamim @MureedBizenjo @atifahmads @Darveshh @airtiza
    32 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Do you know a concept ‘false neutrality’? @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    34 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Who said that? @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    35 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Why is there a culture of denial on Shia target killings? @Darveshh @AiliaZehra @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    35 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Are Shias in Quetta, D.I.Khan, Kurram, Ashura being target killed due to robbery? @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    37 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl High crime rates are not faith/ethnicity specific; Shia & Baloch genocides are! @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @YaAbalFazl Not everyone is being target killed to his faith in Pakistan. False neutrality. @Aadii_ @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    44 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @Aadii_ Shias are being target killed due to their faith. Most target killed faith group in Pakistan. @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110
    45 minutes ago

    Laibaah1 Laibaah
    @Aadii_ It is wrong to deny the fact that Jews were killed by Nazis due to their faith. @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110

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    Aadii_ Adeel Asad.
    @Senilius_110 Disagree,bullets are not keen to entertain a particular one,they are same for everyone who is hit @Laibaah1 @fariZafar
    1 hour ago
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    YaAbalFazl Shabber Abbas
    @Aadii_ @Laibaah1 @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110 Yes everyone is getting killed these days, and this is what is KILLING ME :'(
    1 hour ago

    Aadii_ Adeel Asad.
    @Laibaah1 I understand your concerns but does that mean,other Muslims being killed are not worthy? @fariZafar @Afrin_Abbas @Senilius_110

  • […] DAWN’s continual slide is best encapsulated in some of the editorial and opinion pieces today.  For instance, Huma Yusuf’s “Sectarian Scourge” is a typical example of the intellectual dishonesty, lazy research and deliberate obfuscation that is prevalent amongst much of Pakisan’s media.  Much of what she has written has been deconstructed in Intellectual dishonesty in misrepresenting Shia massacres in Pakistan. […]

  • Kafir kafir shia rafzi kafir j na manay woh bhi kafir, Kafir kafir shia rafzi kafir j na manay woh bhi kafir, Kafir kafir shia rafzi kafir j na manay woh bhi kafir, Kafir kafir shia rafzi kafir j na manay woh bhi kafir, Kafir kafir shia rafzi kafir j na manay woh bhi kafir