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The myth of Ghazwa-tul-Hind – by Ale Natiq

Ghazwa-tul-Hind: Pakistani flag hoisted at Red Fort, Delhi, India. This image was created and circulated by the Brasstacks.biz (ISI mouth-piece Zaid Hamids organization) team.

Ghazwa-tul-Hind: Pakistani flag hoisted at Red Fort, Delhi, India. This image was created and circulated by the Brasstacks.biz (ISI mouth-piece Zaid Hamid’s organization) team.

Religion has quite frequently been used as an excuse for military motives. Talking specifically about Islam, hadees has been used as a tool to invent excuses for political motivations and military interventions/attacks as and when required.

There has been enormous hue and cry over Ghazwa-tul-Hind for years. This was probably first used by self-styled Jihadi activists in Pakistan for getting public support in Pakistan and raising funds to be used in their attacks in Kashmir with the aim of conquering India and creating what they call dar-ul-Islam. It is very interesting to note that neither Arabs nor the Mujahideen of Afghanistan made use of these ahadees to wage a war against India. Pakistan Army, ISI and the local Jihadis have a monopoly over Ghazwa-tul-Hind for now, although they don’t talk specifically about Green Pakistani Jihadis waging the war.

Islamists and right-wing-military-apologists have fallen to the propaganda of Pakistan Army and ISI when they propagate waging a war against the neighboring country India, finding excuses for ding so throughhadees. Zaid Hamid, the mouth-piece of ISI and Pakistan Army has been making use of Ghazwa-tul-Hind (6 hadees in total), promoting hatred against Hindus and war hysteria. These hadees are available here.

Are they authentic ?

  1. Just a brief look at these will make it clear that none of these five ahadees are found in Sihah-e-Sitta. Two of these appear to be in the collections of ahadees by Imam Nisai but not in Sunan an-Nisai al Sughra, the book considered to be among the Sihah-e-Sitta, the six books considered most reliable by main-stream Muslims.
  2. The others are not even found in the reliable collections of respected muhadiseen.
  3. Note that Imam Nisai died in 915. The years of death of other respected muhadiseen to whom Sihah-e-Sitta are attributed to: Imam Bukhari in 870, Imam Muslim in 875, Abu Daud in 888, al-Tirmizi in 892,Imam Malik in 796, Ibn Maja in 886. All of them died before Imam Nisai. It does not make much sense that we have these ahadees being narrated through Imam Nisai but not through any of the other respected muhadiseen who lived before him.
  4. They are narrated through a single chain. Reported only once through one companion of the Prophet.
  5. Considering the reward for participating in this war and the importance of it, as these ahadees tell, they should have been narrated by more companions of the Prophet and should have been there in more books of ahadees.
  6. It is very important to note that none of these are found in any of the collections of ahadees which theShia Muslims consider authentic. This raises the question if they were invented by the Ummayads/Abbasids considering their expansionist designs? This is also to be noted that Ummayads did reach Sindh, a part of Hind back then.
  7. One must also note the fact that we don’t have any history report telling us about the use of theseahadees in the past by Muslim rulers or conquerors, even those who did invade India or waged a war on it. If they were respected and authentic ahadees, we should have such history reports.

Fourthly, it must be remembered that it would have been very easy for Muslim conquerors of India in the past, men like Mahmud of Ghazni, Shihabuddin Ghori, Timur, Nadir Shah and so on, to present the hadith about the ghazwat ul-hind and wield it as a weapon to justify their attacks on the country. The corrupt ulema associated with their courts could well have suggested this to them had they wished. However, no such mention is made about this in history books. In the eighteenth century, the well-known Islamic scholar Shah Waliullah of Delhi invited the Afghan warlord Ahmad Shah Abdali to invade India and dispel the Marathas, which he accepted, but yet Shah Waliullah, too, did not use this hadith as a pretext for this. [1]

What if they are authentic ?

It is also pertinent to examine how some well-known contemporary Indian ulema look at this hadith report.

1. Maulana Abdul Hamid Numani, a leading figure of the Jamiat ul-Ulema-i Hind, opines that this hadith was fulfilled at the time of the ‘Four Righteous Caliphs’ of the Sunnis, soon after the demise of the Prophet Muhammad, when several companions of the Prophet came to India, mainly in order to spread Islam. [1]

2. Mufti Sajid Qasmi, who teaches at the Dar ul-Uloom in Deoband, is also of the same opinion, although he believes that it might also refer to the invasion of Sindh by the Arabs under Muhammad bin Qasim in the eighth century. [1]

3. On the other hand, Maulana Mufti Mushtaq Tijarvi of the Jamaat-i Islami Hind believes that it is possible that this hadith report is not genuine at all and that it might have been fabricated at the time of Muhammad bin Qasim’s invasion of Sindh in order to justify it. [1]

Scholars and historians argue that even if they are considered as authentic, it might be the case that they talk about an event which has already happened.

1. On the other hand, if this hadith report is indeed genuine—which it might well be—in my view, the battle against India that it predicted was fulfilled in the early Islamic period itself, and is not something that will happen in the future. This, in fact, is the opinion of the majority of the ulema, qualified Islamic scholars. And this view accords with reason as well. [1]

2. It is quite likely that the ghazwat ul-hind that this report predicted took the form of the attack by an Arab Muslim force on Thana and Bharuch, in coastal western India , in the 15th year or the Islamic calendar in the reign of the Caliph Umar. [1]

3. Equally possibly, it could have been fulfilled in the form of the missionary efforts of some of the Prophet’s companions soon after, in the reign of the Caliphs Uthman and Ali, in Sindh and Gujarat .[1]

4. Some other ulema consider this hadith to have been fulfilled in the form of the attack and occupation of Sindh by Arab Muslims led by Muhammad bin Qasim in the 93rd year of the Islamic calendar, which then facilitated the spread of Islam in the country. [1]

5. This might well be the case, for the hadith report about the ghazwat ul-hind contained in the Masnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal, a well-known collection of Hadith narratives attributed to the Prophet, mentions that the Muslim army that would attack India would be sent in the direction of Sindh and Hind. [1]

Opinion of the religious scholars

I inquired about the authenticity of these ahadees from a few religious scholars and would like to share their opinion in this regard:

Ayotullah Fadlallah, Lebanon
Such things exist in the hadith collections, which are often either placed or mounted on a symbolic meaning, or they talk about something historic which has happened in the context of what we believe in self-defense. Further, the hadith in question can be doubted about their autenticity as they are not found in any reliable and agreed upon source. The chain of narrators is weak to be considered authentic.

In this day and age what would govern the relations of Muslims and followers of other religions, are the international treaties and covenants that ensure the state security, peace and freedom of belief for all human beings.

These treaties are binding on Muslims, especially as they are consistent with the approach of Islam declared in the Qur’an about the obligation to respect the religions and the freedom and security of other peoples.

Hence, the use of such hadith for political or military motives is discouraged.

The Office of the referenda for Religious Authority
Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah

Research Wing, Al-Mawrid Institue

assalaam o alaykum

I have tried to find out the sources of these traditions. None of these traditions is found in reliable soruces like Bukhari, Muslim, Mu’atta etc. If we suppose them to be reliable they talk about an even that has happened already. They do not talk about Pakistanis fighting Indians. They talk about Arabs on an expedition to India and conquering it.

Tariq Mahmood Hashmi
Associate Editor

Khalid Zaheer, Al-Mawrid, Lahore, Pakistan

Salaam All these ahadith refer to troops going from Palestine and Syria and returning to those regions. Even if these ahadith were authentic, and they are indeed found in reliable books, they have nothing to do with any possibility of an Indo-Pak war.

The other important thing to note is that Abu Huraira, the companion-narrator is suggesting that it was something that was about to happen during his lifetime. it is quite likely that Muhammad Bin Qasim’s conquest of Sind was being prophesied in these ahadith.

The third important matter to note is that a message as important as the one mentioned in these narratives is described in all different versions through only one companion. Clearly, if the message was important, there should have been several narrators mentioning it.

This message therefore cannot be employed as an excuse to fight against India. We can fight against India or any other nation only if conditions of Jihad are satisfied, which are: it should be declared by a Muslim ruler, Muslims should be at least half as militarily strong as their enemies, and the enemy should be guilty of blatant injustice against a group of people. Any individual or group of people cannot declare Jihad on their own against anyone; if they do, they will be guilty of creating fasaad fil ‘ard (mischief on earth). [2]

Information on the ahadees available at http://www.ghazwatulhind.com/

Hadees No. 1
Important References Provided : Masnad of Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Sunan al-Mujtababa and Sunana al-Kubra of Imam Nisai

Hadees No. 2
Important References Provided : Masnad of Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Sunan-al-Kubra of Imam Nisai

Hadees No. 3
Important References Provided : Naeem bin Hammad in Kitab-al-Fattan

Hadees No. 4
Important References Provided : Naeem bin Hammad in Kitab-al-Fattan
(The name of one of the ravi is missing from the chain of narrators, hence this is to be ignored technically)

Hadees No. 5
Important References Provided : Naeem bin Hammad in Kitab-al-Fattan

Sources:
[1] http://madrasareforms.blogspot.com/2009/01/maulana-waris-mazhari-countering.html

Maulana Waris Mazhari, a graduate of the Dar ul-Uloom at Deoband, is the editor of the Delhi-based ‘Tarjuman Dar ul-Uloom’, the official organ of the Deoband Graduates’ Association. He can be contacted on w.mazhari@gmail.com

[2] http://www.khalidzaheer.com/qa/399
Dr Khalid Zaheer is the Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences of University of Central Punjab since July 1, 2009. Prior to joining UCP, he was the Director Education, Al-Mawrid, which is an NGO established to promote research and education on Islam. Prior to joining Al-Mawrid in September 2006, he was an Associate Professor of Islamic Studies and Ethics at Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS). He has a teaching experience of more than 20 years.

This article was first published at: http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=1124

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  • zaid hamid is a KGB + RAW agent deployed to cause instability in pakistan and make pakistan a pariah state similar to iran, north korea and etc… to protect russian interests….(in central Asia)
    he lived in iran during shiah era and helped toppled the regime and set off the Iranian revolution
    he is not from pakistan nor turkey, he in fact is a white person and propaganda agent of the KGB….

  • zaid hamid is a KGB + RAW agent deployed to cause instability in pakistan and make pakistan a pariah state similar to iran, north korea and etc… to protect russian interests….(in central Asia)

    he lived in iran during shiah era and helped toppled the regime and set off the Iranian revolution

    he is not from pakistan nor turkey, he in fact is a white person and propaganda agent of the KGB….

  • Zaid Hamid, a self proclaimed defense analyst and a famous anti-India TV personality of Pakistan. Out of nowhere this guy has taken the media and the people by storm. With his excellent oration skills, he entertains his audience by presenting all sorts of conspiracy theories, from labeling Hamid Mir a CIA agent to claiming that the neocons want to ‘de-islamize’ Pakistan, as if we already have not been de-islamized.
    Blaming the CIA, RAW and Mossad for every wrong in the country, Zaid Hamid appears on talk shows on a daily basis, saying that the only way Pakistan can come out of the present situation is by ‘changing the system’.? He talks about some Islamic system, based on the ideology of Iqbal, and I thought an Islamic system should be based on the ideology of Islam. Perhaps we might see the ‘Khilafat-e-Zaid”, where Zaid Hamid will be the absolute ruler of the country, waging nuclear wars against India, Israel and of course the USA. He seems a psychotic, whose sole aim is to spread extremism and expedite militancy. He is just detracting the young generation with his vulgar thought and ideas. Such a dangerous pscho-patient must be ban on media. Zaid Hamid’s name appeared in the papers some years ago as he was the Vice of Yousaf Kazzab of Lahore, a cursed man who falsely claimed of prophethood.
    The Pakistani people are heavily influenced by the media, Zaid Hamid is making full use of it, and a lot of people actually believe these conspiracy theories. On several occasions Zaid Hamid has stated that “we” are going to bring a revolution that will change the system, once and for all. Mind you the Taliban have also repeatedly demanded their own Islamic system in the country.

  • @ALE Xpressed

    Dear Ale,

    Hafiz Ibn Kathir [Author of Tafseer Ibn Kathir] in his another book “Al Bidaya Wan Nihaya” [From the Beginning to End]’s last Volume “Al Nihaya Wal Bidaya” had discussed this Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind and in total had given names of more than one such Islami Military Campaigns on Hind [many Deobandis and other Mullahs in India and Pakistan too are now being apologetically say that many campaigns were not for the sake of Islam – what a joke] . The commentary by Ibn-e-Kathir [Mohaddis] on that “Ghazwa-e-Hind Hadith is worth reading and he interpreted that Hadith [with Historical References and Health of the Narrators’ Chain] and clearly written that all those Islamic Armies who launched expedition on Hind [Ibn Kathir was an Scholar of Hadith and History and his School of Thought was of same which is now followed in Saudi Arabia and Wahabi Belt] were Jihad and he included Mohammad Bin Qasim and Mahmood Bin Subugtagin [Mehmood Ghaznavi] and many other Turks Kings. He included China and Central Asia while interpreting these Hadiths. [Reference: Authenticity of Hadiths anc Narrators get Al Taqreeb by Ibn Hajar Asqalani.]

    And before Muhammad Bin Qasim’s Army.

    Abdullah Shah Ghazi is considered to be patron saint of Karachi, Sindh, Pakistan. The dargah of Abdullah Shah Ghazi is located in Clifton neighborhood of Saddar Town in Karachi. The real name of Abdullah Shah Ghazi was Abdulla bin Nahban and he was a General in Umayyad Army who died at Debal while trying to conquer Sindh in 711 CE. This army was led by Abdulla bin Nahban and Badil bin Tuhfa, respectively and were both defeated at Debal. According to Dr. Daud Pota the tomb of Abdullah Shah at Clifton in Karachi is of this General, Abdulla bin Nabhan. [Nuzahat ul Khawatir by Abul Hasan Ali Nadvi Former Head of Daul Uloom Deoband and his father Abdul Hai Nadvi]

    Hadith of Ghazawa-e-Hind is narrated by Hazrat Thuban [May Allah be pleased with him] in Sunnan Nisa’i Chapter Ghazwatul Hind] wherein Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] had said

    “QUOTE”

    “Muslims would wage a Jihad in Hind and if it happens in my [PBUH] life then I [PBUH] will spent my [PBUH] life and money and I [PBUH] am martyred then I will be “Chief of Martyr” and If I return alive then I will be like Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] who is free from Hell.

    “UNQUOTE”

    All narrators in the chain of narration are truthful [in Arabic Term for Hadith Narrator is “Thiqqa and Saduq”] but one narrator’s background is unknown “Majhool ul Hal” and his name was Abu Bakar Al Zubaidi. [Al Taqreeb by Asqalani, Al Kashif by Imam Zahbi, Sahih Jameh As Sagher by Albani with the reference of Musnad Ahmed, and Imam Muqdasi’s Zia Mukhtara] – Read two comment wherein I have quote Haifz Ibn-e-Kathir and his commentary on this Hadith to clear the confusion.

    Note: Any mistake in literal translation would be unintentional and regretted, if I am wrong somewhere please correct me.

    Another View:

    Basically some Shias murdered the Ummayad’s Governor of Mekran and took shelter in Sindh with Raja Dahar hence the campaign against Sindh launched by Hajjaj Bin Yousuf [Governor Basra] and Father In Law as well as Paternal Uncle of Muhammad Bin Qasim and when Hajjaj died the next Caliph called Muhammad Bin Qasim back and imprisoned him and tortured him to death in Wasit Prison of Iraq [Tareekh Ibn-e-Khladun] – The only ancient source on Sindh History is Chach Nama but there are many versions by different names Fateh nama Sindh, Tarekh-e-Hind wa Sindh, The Chach Nama was written by Kàzí Ismáíl . Kází Ismàíl was appointed the first Kází of Alór by Muhammad Kásim after the conquest of the place. Translation is as under:
    More in The Chachnama-An Ancient History of Sind
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/416177/The-ChachnamaAn-Ancient-History-of-Sind

    Please keep one thing in Mind that First Islamic Army rather a Trade Delegation had arrived in South India [Malabar] during the Rule of Hazrat Uthman [May Allah be pleased with him] – The first ship bearing Muslim travelers was seen on the Indian coast as early as 630 AD. H.G. Rawlinson, in his book: Ancient and Medieval History of India claims the first Arab Muslims settled on the Indian coast in the last part of the 7th century AD.

    Reference :

    Ancient and Medieval History of India by H.G. Rawlinson

    Sturrock, J.,South Canara and Madras District Manual (2 vols., Madras, 1894-1895)

    Cultural Heritage of India Vol. IV

    In September 2000, eminent Pakistani historian Mubarak Ali wrote an article, “How Many Qasims, Ghaznavis, and Ghoris Do We Need?” analyzing the valorization of Arabs and Turks who ravished the land that is now Pakistan, in school textbooks. Ali observed that Muhammad bin Qasim, Mahmud of Ghazni and Shihabuddin Ghori emerged as powerful symbols in Muslim politics in the context of the 1930s’ communal atmosphere in India, but their continued aggrandizement had disastrous consequences for Pakistan.

    Back to present days:

    Zaid and other Mullahs [they misinterpret Ghazaw-e-Hind Hadith and this misinterpretation was started by Maulana Akram Awan before the start of Kargil to hound Nawaz Shairf – Akram Awan’s party accept disciples in their Jamat after they take approval from Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and that too after arranging a meeting of would be disciple with Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) just imagine Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) is dead and dead don’t come back]. Let me tell you one more thing Akram Awan have two more important member in his Jamat i.e. Major General (R) Zahirul Islam and Brig {R} Mustansir Billah [both were fixed in a false case of Treason by a Former General and DG of MI i.e Ali Quli Khan]. Ali Kuli Khan wanted to become COAS therefore he designed this whole conspiracy case against Abbasi and Billa that they are paving way for Islamic Revolution in the country [go through the newspapers/magainzens (Pakistani) from 1990 to 1994] but Al Quli Khan couldn’t become COAS. These Officers had also approached Mufit Nizamuddin Shamzai [May Allah have mercy on his soul – Chief of Binnori Town Karachi] for his help and also Mawlana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [May Allah have mercy on his soul] and asked for help for Islamic Revolution and both of these officers got a very befitting replies from both the Scholars In their own words

    “QUOTE”

    “Yeh Aap Logoon Ko Islami Inquilab Ka Khayal Us Waqt Kiyon Aata Hai Jub Wardi Utar Jati Hai” [Why is it so that you came up with the idea to bring in Islamic Revolution after you are no more in Uniform]

    “UNQUOTE”

    Here is Sheikh Muhammad Akram Awan of Ghazwa-e-Hind and his website: http://www.naqshbandiaowaisiah.com/index.html http://www.ghazwatulhind.com/
    Note: In the first URL that there is A SEAL of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] is pasted on the left side of the website [Copy of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)’s Seal is engraved] whereas Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] had stopped us to remake that seal [Bukhari].

    I wonder since when Sufis of Naqshabandi Owaisi Order started talking in the term of
    “Strategic Depths”?

    Can he prove Sufism through Quran and Hadith because the word itself a Bida’at [Innovation] and appeared 2 centuries after the death of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH].
    شيخ المکرم امير محمد اکرم اعوان
    Shaikh Silsilah Naqshbandiah Owaisiah
    http://owaisiah.com/

    These nincompoops often forget that Siljoq, Tughlaq, Ghaznavis, Lodhis, Behman, Mughals invaded/occupied/ruled parts of India and some of them large parts of India and ruled over India successfully particularly the Mughals ruled India with impunity for more than 200 years. What would be the status of their Armies and their War. They are least bothered to even pay attention to the word in that Hadith “Ghazwa” – Ghazwa are those battles wherein Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] participated. Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] is dead hence such battles cannot be called “Ghazwa”. Version of Zaid Hamid and Akram Awan is not supported If we carefully read the original text of that Hadith what to talk of commentary of Ibn Kathir on the Hadith of Ghazwa-e- Hind which completely refute the bunkum of Zaid Hamid and Akram Awan.

  • Assalam-o-aly kum
    Zaid Hamid ke tamam followers say mera sawal hay kay chalo hum mantay haen kay ye ahadees bilkul authentic haen in ahadees par bohat say ulma nay baat kee barahay meharbanee mera sawal hay kay mujhay sirf is bat ka jawab day daen kay Zaid Hamid kehta hay kay Allah kee qasam Ghazwa tul hind sirf Pak fauj ka naseeb hay kay aap logon nay un hadeeson ko ghor say para?
    aap phir paren un ko aur Zaid Hamid ka dya hua link hee day raha hoon

    http://www.ghazwatulhind.com/

    jee to in ahadees maen saaf likha hay kay baytul muqqdas ka badsha hind kee janib lashkar rawana karayga aur phir fatah kay baad Baytul muqaddas ka badsha in khazano ko baytul muqaddas kee tazeen-o-araeesh kay ley istama karay ga ab ye to takreeb aap sab hee jantay hongay kay sahryat ka rule hay kay malay ghaneemat par haq un ka hee hota hay jo jang maen hissa laen aur malay ghaneemat us hee mulk ya saltanat maen jata hay jahan say fauj atee hay ab agar ye pak fauj ka naseeb hay aur pak fauj hind fata karaygee to malay ghaneemat Pakistan maen ana chahey na kay baytul muqaddas jana cahye aur agay hadees maen hay kay jab wo fauj sham kee taraf paltaengay to Hazrat Eisa a.s. ko payngay to agar ye Pak fauj hogee to woto Pakistan maen paltaygee zahir hay inssn wahan hee palat ta hay jahan say wo ata hay aur palatnay ka lafz use hee anay ka bad kya jata hay warna lafz istamal hota kay jab wo fauj sham may jaygee to Eisa a.s. ko paygee laykin nahee alfaz haen jab wo sham maen paltaygee to Eisa. a.s. ko paygee ab Pakistan aur hindustan to ye raha saath saath aur sham kitna door hay kya Zaid kee bat in ahadees par utartee hay kay Allah kee qasam ye ghazwa sirf Pak fauj ka naseb hay? jawab zaroor dijy ga
    mera aisay hee bohat say sawal haen jinka jawab mujhay ab tak Zaid kay kisee follower nay nahee dya meray coments paraen http://www.azzab.com par isee name say

  • @Abdullah

    Dear Abdullah Sahab,

    These Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind are authentic and repeated [Tawatur] and Zaid Hamid and other Deviant Sufi Akram Awan are wrongle interpreting the Hadith of Jihad-e-Hind to exploit poor people of Pakistan to whip up War Frenzy in Pakistan even the link you provided on Ghazwa-e-Hind is hosted by that Cult of Akram Awan.

    As far as Religious Text is concerned I always prefer Original Text from Original Books whenever someone post an internet link.

  • Assalam-o-aly kum
    Zaid Hamid ke tamam followers say mera sawal hay kay chalo hum mantay haen kay ye ahadees bilkul authentic haen in ahadees par bohat say ulma nay baat kee barahay meharbanee mera sawal hay kay mujhay sirf is bat ka jawab day daen kay Zaid Hamid kehta hay kay Allah kee qasam Ghazwa tul hind sirf Pak fauj ka naseeb hay kay aap logon nay un hadeeson ko ghor say para?
    aap phir paren un ko aur Zaid Hamid ka dya hua link hee day raha hoon

    http://www.ghazwatulhind.com/

    jee to in ahadees maen saaf likha hay kay baytul muqqdas ka badsha hind kee janib lashkar rawana karayga aur phir fatah kay baad Baytul muqaddas ka badsha in khazano ko baytul muqaddas kee tazeen-o-araeesh kay ley istama karay ga ab ye to takreeb aap sab hee jantay hongay kay sahryat ka rule hay kay malay ghaneemat par haq un ka hee hota hay jo jang maen hissa laen aur malay ghaneemat us hee mulk ya saltanat maen jata hay jahan say fauj atee hay ab agar ye pak fauj ka naseeb hay aur pak fauj hind fata karaygee to malay ghaneemat Pakistan maen ana chahey na kay baytul muqaddas jana cahye aur agay hadees maen hay kay jab wo fauj sham kee taraf paltaengay to Hazrat Eisa a.s. ko payngay to agar ye Pak fauj hogee to woto Pakistan maen paltaygee zahir hay inssn wahan hee palat ta hay jahan say wo ata hay aur palatnay ka lafz use hee anay ka bad kya jata hay warna lafz istamal hota kay jab wo fauj sham may jaygee to Eisa a.s. ko paygee laykin nahee alfaz haen jab wo sham maen paltaygee to Eisa. a.s. ko paygee ab Pakistan aur hindustan to ye raha saath saath aur sham kitna door hay kya Zaid kee bat in ahadees par utartee hay kay Allah kee qasam ye ghazwa sirf Pak fauj ka naseb hay? jawab zaroor dijyga

  • assalam-o-alay kum
    @ Aamir Mughal
    aapnay Akram awan say mutalik durust farmaya kyonkay mane ukay Ghzwatul hind say mutalik bayan You tube par dekh chuka hoon

  • I have only one question. Why is Ale Natiq so worried about these Ahadith. It seems to me a frantic attempt to discredit these Ahadith at any cost to protect… India?

  • In reference to the hadith referenced by Abdullah on February 9, 2010. The question is that the King of BaitulMaqdas is mentioned and not the PakFauj. This is a good question and has alot of Merit behind it. I wonder if the King of baitul Muqdas pertains to someone who will be a Muslim King but with Jewish blood to fulfil this prophecy. Could it be a Pakistan Ruler who is a Pathan(jewish blood /King/Muslim/Pakistani at the same time). We do know that BaitulMaqdas was ruled by Jewish Tribes at some point in history and they were evicted by their enemies and they spread around the world (see Surah 17, Surah Bani Israel). According to some historians, one of these tribes settled in Afhgan and Pak area and became the Pathans. This is only a guess. Only Allah knows the Best.

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  • ye ghazwa hind khorasan ki army ka zikr karti hai jokey black flags lekr horses per rawana hogy aur ye koi choti moti war nahein ye jang hazrat imam mehdi ke dour me larii jayegi jab hindustan aur arab ke kuch sufyani aik hojaege aur hazrat imam mehdi aur unke tammam followers se jang karege aur hindustan mere khayal se sind per hamla karega aur khorasan se log madad keliye ayegey

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