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Social Media Summit in Karachi which never was! – by Laibaah

Pakistani blogs remain dominated by urban-centric, pro-establishment chatterati

Related posts: How to identify liberal proxies of GHQ in Pakistani media and blogs

Fake Civil Society (FCS) – by Shahid Khan

At Pakistan’s first sever Social Media Summit (aka PKSMS) in Karachi, the following resolutions were passed:

At #pksms Pak bloggers rejected the allegation that MOST of them are urban-centric, ignore Blaoch genocide in Khuzdar and Turbat, Pashtun genocide in Swat and FATA, and Shia genocide in Parachinar, D.I.Khan and Quetta.

At #PKSMS, bloggers of Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad rejected the allegation that they remain silent on Tooris blockade, Baloch genocide and Hazara massacre

@naveenaqvi @TristramPerry @faisalkapadia  At #PkSMS bloggers rejected the impression that they remained silent on the export of Pakistani mercenaries to save the monarch in Bahrain

At #pksms Pak bloggers rejected the allegation that MOST of them are hard on politicians but very soft on GHQ/ISI

sheenalif88

Bloggers at #PKSMS urged Govt to provide security to #Hazaras in #Queta under attack by sectarian proxies of ISI

aliarqam Ali Arqam
She’s day dreaming @Laibaah: Really? RT @sheenalif88 Bloggers at #PKSMS urged Govt to provide security to #Hazaras in #Queta

Dr Awab’s concern

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@DrAwab I don’t agree with your comments here. They reflect experiences of #FCS bloggers. Your comment “when we hold rallies only 0.5 per cent of the online community turns up” only applies to PTI, JI and #FCS (Fake Civil Society) bloggers

@DrAwab @faisalkapadia @Mehmal @sanasaleem Did the #PKSMS highlight the issue of dominance of urban-centric, anti-politicians chatterati in Pakistani blogs?

Did #PKSMS highlight the visible silence of Pakistani bloggers on Baloch, Pashtun and Shia genocide in Pakistan by ISI and its proxies?

Did #PKSMS highlight that Pak bloggers are more interested in defending Angelina Jolie and Veena Malik than Tooris of Parachinar who remain blockaded by ISI-TTP mafia for last many years

FCS bloggers and their apologists

At #pksms Pakistani bloggers discussed why @naveenaqvi, @TammyHaq @BinaShah have converted @cfdpk into anti-PPP league https://lubpak.net/archives/37264

At #pksms Pak bloggers contemplated why @naveenaqvi et al remain PPP-Phobes through urban projects such as @cfdpk and @gawaahi

At #pksms Pak bloggers contemplated why @sanasaleem writes opportunistic letters to Rehman Malik but never to Generals Kayni and Pasha

A rebuttal to Naveen Naqvi and other friendly to ISI bloggers https://lubpak.net/archives/37556

@UroojZia was deployed by her bosses to record attendance at #PKSMS at Karachi Airport @Mehmal @sabahat24 @mehreenkasana

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@faisalkapadia @shobz @naveenaqvi @jehan_ara Four great bloggers who always raise voice against export of Pakistani mercenaries to Bahrain

Four great bloggers who always raise voice against the blockade of Parachinar by ISI-TTP

Disinformed information officers

TristramPerry

@Laibaah Were you actually at PkSMS?

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
Given that I am neither urban, nor pro-establishment, I was not invited. RT @TristramPerry @Laibaah Were you actually at PkSMS?

I don’t fit the bill: http://t.co/QqMiRWS How to identify liberal proxies of GHQ in Pakistani media and blogs #PkSMS

TristramPerry
@Laibaah: Wrong. You were clearly not at #PkSMS

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
What exactly I said is wrong? RT @TristramPerry @Laibaah: Wrong. You were clearly not at #PkSMS

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@MohsinHijazee @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment Bloggers such as @naveenaqvi @shobz continue to ignore blockade of Parachinar by ISI-TTP. Why?

MohsinHijazee Mohsin Hijazee
@Laibaah @naveenaqvi @shobz @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment because stick is longer than shairwani.

Friends of Pakistan must note that (fake) liberal bloggers are very friendly towards ISI. Both (fake) liberal bloggers and right-winger are despised by the people of Pakistan

Shoaib Taimur shobz
@Laibaah dear idiot, #PkSMS was not some political summit. plus i am not a political blogger.

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@shobz Everyone but you and pro-ISI bloggers know that ISI has some friends in Fake Civil Society #FCS. Why? #PkSMS

tahirmalik786 tahir malik
@Laibaah Its easier to criticize a political party but its impossible to castigate an ARMED POLITICAL PARTY

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@tahirmalik786 Exactly, that’s why many bloggers take the easy route by not criticizing the ARMED POLITICAL PARTY

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
Why were urban fake liberals @naveenaqvi @shobz etc who criticize politicians not army generals present in #PkSMS? Why were they not shamed for their pro-ISI stance? @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment

Why were urban fake liberals who never wrote on Baloch and Shia genocide not taken to task in #PkSMS? @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment

Why were @shobz & other urban fake liberals who have not blogged for months present in #PkSMS?

AbdulNishapuri Abdul Nishapuri
Shame on @shobz for misleading @TristramPerry Have you ever written on Parachinar blockade by ISI-Haqqani network? @RiazToori @AndieDeArment

MaulaBuksh Maula Bux Thadani
@AbdulNishapuri @Laibaah @AndieDeArment @HRW @TristramPerry @riaztoori They are too well connected

AbdulNishapuri Abdul Nishapuri
@Laibaah @AndieDeArment @HRW @TristramPerry @riaztoori US information officers must beware of urban centric, establishment leaning bloggers

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@AndieDeArment @HRW Its a shame that US information officer @TristramPerry is being misled by some urban-centric bloggers. #PkSMS

Here is an example of how a Pakistani blogger khushamdifies amreekis. Sharm anyone? RT@shobz @AndieDeArment what’s @tristramperry playing?:D

Soft on GHQ

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
Three most favourite blogs of Generals Kayani and Pasha:@cfdpk @gawaahi @adilnjam’s ATP

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@sheenalif88 @faizanlakhani How can we respect those who love to defend Angelina Jolie and Veena Malik but ignore mass murder of Baloch?

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
What a convenient oversight!!! RT @faizanlakhani I don’t think that Baluchistan issue is being ignored intentionally @sheenalif88

Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
@Aarishhasan How can we support democratic system while being harsh on politicians but remaining silent on GHQ’s crimes?

People are not divided on the fact that ISI’s jihadis are responsible for blasts. Only @shobz @naveenaqvi & pro-ISI bloggers trying to hide the fact

Why abuse only mullahs, why spare those who mentor, train and protect them as their strategic assets!

Those who condemn mullahs (TTP/SSP/LeT) but ignore mullahs’ mentors in the GHQ are either naive or themselves ‘friendly’ to the GHQ

To all bloggers mourning Sarfaraz Shah’s murder by Rangers: why did you remain silent on genocide of Tooris by ISI-TTP: https://lubpak.net/archives/242

Why did urban-centric Pakistani bloggers ignored this? http://t.co/QDovfcD

Bloggers mourning Sarfraz Shah’s death inKarachi remained silent on this: http://t.co/rnajFv3

Final Comment

“The organizers didn’t invite some of boldest anti-establishment blogs: Pamir Times of Gilgit, Pakhtunkhuwa Peace Forum, Baloch Hal and Seraiki Waseb FB groups. Middle East bloggers, twitter journalists were representing what was happening in their streets, unfortunately Lahori and Karachite bloggers don’t represent Pakistan.” “Pakistan was represented by the same people who we are tired of evading the real issues faced by us.”

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  • Did someone read this very patronizing post by the US Consul General?

    US govt employees must note that there are a few, very few independent, anti-military establishment bloggers out there not because but in spite of US and its patronage of the military establishment (ISI etc).

    As noted by two commentators:

    Ameer Hamza
    Jun 12, 2011 – 6:42PM
    Reply
    This is correct: Most of the website belonging to Baloch nationalists are routinely blocked. Many bloggers come from Karachi and some from Lahore and Islamabad with the sprinkling of them coming from places like Hyderabad and Faislabad and Abbotabad, etc. So you can see that the distribution is not even at all and the issues faced by majority of the poor never gets reported. Similarly, reporting from Quetta and Khuzdar, main centers of Baloch Nationalist Movements, is almost non existent.

    Asghar Baloch
    Jun 12, 2011 – 11:35PM
    Reply
    Unfortunately, a vast majority of social media members and bloggers belong to upper middle or upper class and it is more an intra- class interaction at best. The overwhelming mainstream of people from lower classes is still not the part of this new revolution due to digital and medium divides. As long as they are not in reach, gap will not be plugged and hence a true and genuine interaction will not take place and we continue to delegitimize each other life styles and social ideas.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/186962/pakistans-social-media-revolution/

  • When US Consul General writes: “We must never forget, the many journalists who have been killed or injured as they sought to report on the challenges facing us today. They take extraordinary risks to enlighten us with the truth. Nobody embodied this commitment more than Syed Saleem Shahzad, who was senselessly murdered trying to pursue this truth.”

    Not unlike fake liberal bloggers he refrained from naming and condemning the killers, the ISI and its proxies.

  • Shehrbano Taseer is rapidly becoming a part of the typical, urban centric, pro-military establishment chatterati. The sooner she recovers, the better.

  • Correct me if I am wrong but LUBP was present in full force at this event. So is LUBP also right wing pro-establishment ISI organization?

  • @Tacitus Good point. If LUBP was present in the event, they should have raised some excellent concerns highlighted in this post at the main event!

    On a related note, the post suggests that most not all blogs are urban centric and pro-establishment. There are therefore exceptions which are listed in the post itself.

  • Tacitus,

    well, you seem to be missing the author’s point completely. The argument being made was that the attendees did not adequately represent the marginalized communities and classes of the country, not that *this blog* was not represented at the summit. After all, a blog of supporters of the ruling party is not represenative of marginalized communities, by default.

    since you seem to have been in attendance perhaps you can present a rebuttal to the author’s point that baloch, gilgit-baltistan, hazara, shia and religious minorities were well-represented at this summit?

  • @Tacticus,
    Fauzia Wahab is already sold to the ISI. She has said sorry to the ISI on the raymond davis statement. She repents everyday for what she said!

  • Though NFP does not qualify as a blogger, he’s one of the country’s leading columnists, but his blogs in Dawn too are one of the most read in the region.

    In fact his Dawn blogs and Tweets get a lot more attantion than most of the so-called ‘top bloggers’ present at the conf.

    A friend and myself heard some attendents asking the organizers as to why NFP was not invited. One of them said that he was but he refused to come. That is a blatant lie. I emailed NFP to confirm and as it turned out, not only did he not refuse, he had no idea about such a summit.

    Of course he would have been a misfit there anyway, being genuine liberal!

  • NFP would have said something which these jerks of teeth, gawaahi and all may not have liked!!

  • Laiba @ Twitter

    @mahnooryawar @guldaar why R @jehan_ara & other urban #FCS worried about pressure on politicians, not generals? #PKSMS bbc.in/mm30LY

    Where were @naveenaqvi @mehreenkasana @tammyhaq @tazeen when innocent men of Parachinar were being cut into pieces by ISI-TTP savages?

    Instead of arresting abettors, facilitators & protectors of TTP,SSP,LeT, ISI is busy arresting those who helped world in getting rid of OBL

    Why are bloggers @SamadK @TammyHaq @naveenaqvi @shobz silent when ISI is arresting those who helped Pakistan in getting rid of OBL?

    By the time Pak’s urban bloggers will start writing on Baloch genocide by ISI, ‘job’ will be done!

    Baloch rights activists thank @naveenaqvi @sanasaleem @mehreenkasana @shobz & @samadk for exposing ISI-SSP-LeJ’s atrocities against Balochis

    @AndieDeArment @tristramperry Kudos to these bold bloggers 4 writing on Parachinar blockade by ISI-TTP @shobz @TammyHaq @SamadK @sanasaleem

    @AndieDeArment @tristramperry Kudos to these bold bloggers 4 writing on Parachinar blockade by ISI-TTP @naveenaqvi @uroojzia @faisalkapadia

    Good news! @UroojZia @shobz have decided that next bloggers summit #PkSMS will be held in Parachinar @mehmal @AndieDeArment @tristramperry

    Good news! @TammyHaq @SamadK @akchishti have decided that next bloggers summit #PkSMS will be held in Parachinar @beradadisini @unspun

    How can estab’s apologists @shobz @uroojzia @samadk talk about minorities rights while completely ignoring Parachinar blockade by ISI-TTP?

    MohsinHijazee Mohsin Hijazee
    @Laibaah @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment @naveenaqvi @shobz they only talk on what media hypes about. Echo on Echo.

    At least I can name and shame the killers. Unlike you two @salarlamar @shobz I refuse to remain silent on atrocities by ISI and its proxies

    @shobz you seem to be very concerned about sectarian violence. did you write on export of Pakistani mercenaries to Bahrain?

    @DrAwab It is intentional dishonesty that pro-ISI bloggers @faisalkapadia and @shobz justify Shia genocide by ISI’s proxies as sectarianism

  • @ Y A. Tauqeer

    I agree that a popular columnist like NFP who has also been turned into an equally popular blogger by dawn should have been there, but bhai, I can assure you he would have refused to come. NOT because of the reasons you guys have outlined but simply because he is a well known recluse and hardly ever comes to public events. He is also known to have been extremely selsctive about appearing on TV. So relax.

  • May be I am wrong but I see that Pakistan blogs are not that much popular compare of Arab and other countries blogs ,in Pakistan the anchor person and columnists are more popular then few bloggers ,Most the public in Pakistan read and listen Urdu instead of English ,If you compare this to Arab world ,the bloggers used to write in their native language which make them more popular .
    There are some sites where Pakistan bloggers discuss the issue is more popular and effected then the individual blogger page .
    Also now the Urdu columnists and TV anchors are using their Facebook pages which are also very popular

  • Its so sad to see Laibaah’s voice silenced on Twitter. Her account was suspended on the complaint of Cyril Almeida, Ejaz Haider, Mosharraf Zaidi and gang.

  • No Pakistan court ever completed a trial agnst him in more than 150 terrorism cases Malik Ishaq has been named in in last 15-20 years!

    Why? Because whenever a judge did try, Malik Ishaq would in court proceedins read out details of the judge’s family members and their schedules! No judge was ever given protection by any Pak Govt for daring to try him!

    This evil man and his evil band of monsters have POWERFUL friends in ISI and our political elite

  • For a quick look at how many urban liberal fakesters are flattering a US diplomat in Lahore, check @TristramPerry’s timeline on Twitter.

    UroojZia
    RT @TristramPerry: RT @samishah: “I have had a hat made of the quran so I can always tell the truth” #zmirzasaidwhat

    theRealYLH
    RT @Mehmal: #FF @TristramPerry – a young, bright diplomat with a great sense of humour.

    theRealYLH
    @tristramperry excellent evening. Thanks for being the gregarious host that you are.

    @BinaShah
    Guys, follow @TristramPerry. He’s giving away an iPad 2 to his 1000th follower! RT.

    TristramPerry
    #FF most influential Pakistanis onTwitter: @BinaShah @Mehmal @jehan_ara @thekarachikid @shehrbanotaseer @SundusRasheed

  • Tristram Perry works as information officer in US Consulate in Lahore, Pakistan. Previously he used to serve as the Public Diplomacy Officer covering broadcast media at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia. http://blogs.state.gov/index.php/entries/clinton_indonesian_tv_show/

    TristramPerry Tristram Perry
    According to Klout, I’m influential on the topics of Pakistan, coffee and food. Time to move to DC and open up my own think tank. Or bakery.

    TristramPerry Tristram Perry
    Nothing speaks louder than a voice from the past to make you consider your future.

    TristramPerry
    #FF My Pakistani Twitter-bhais @laalshah @theRealYLH @therealfasih @qasimnauman @thekarachikid @osamabinjavaid

    Laibaah
    Will u refrain from poking in Pak affairs? RT @TristramPerry when is the televised Amir Liaquat Hussain vs. Luqman Mubashir death match?

    Ausulemani RT @Laibaah: Here is an example of how a Pakistani blogger khushamdifies amreekis. Sharm anyone? RT@shobz @AndieDeArment what’s @tristramperry playing?:D

    AbdulNishapuri
    May v request @TristramPerry 2 refrain from silencing @laibaah a Pakistani human rights activist & media critic? @Gilgiti @tatom2k @Manndost

    Given US’s hypocritical role in suppressing democracy movement in Bahrain, what better could we expect from info officer @TristramPerry !!

    Replug: US diplomat in Lahore @TristramPerry and urban flatterers in his timeline who gagged @laibaah’s account: Shame on you! #FreeSpeech

    Urban Liberal Alert –> @BinaShah @marvisirmed @TristramPerry @naveenaqvi @Mehmal @mehreenkasana @sanasaleem

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @MohsinHijazee @TristramPerry @AndieDeArment Bloggers such as @naveenaqvi @shobz continue to ignore blockade of Parachinar by ISI-TTP. Why?

    Birds of a feather? RT @laalshah RT @TristramPerry: Sitting with @mehreenkasana @Amara807 @Mehmal @theRealYLH drinking tea.

    Shame! RT @samishah @Laibaah not sure if u r being ironic or just an asshole. Also, not a hypocrite. I own my liberal eliteness. @tammyhaq

    Laibaah
    @samishah Not unlike @uroojzia you use vile language and keep licking @tammyhaq’s and @TristramPerry’s shoes

    asmjaved:
    @Laibaah @ejazhaider @beenasarwar @mehmal in my view we have ugliest, filthiest, and most corrupt liberals cl …

    asmjaved:
    @Laibaah @ejazhaider @beenasarwar @marvisirmed @mehmal on dinner table they sound savior of humanity; in practical ugly & .

    BinaShah
    Well I’m a tranny but I appreciate the mention @marvisirmed @TristramPerry @naveenaqvi @Mehmal @mehreenkasana @shehrbanotaseer @sanasaleem

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Next, I will RT to demonstrate how a urban flatterer of @TristramPerry is so obviously annoyed.
    44 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete

    theRealYLH Yasser Latif Hamdani
    @Laibaah @TristramPerry @Mehmal Thanks. I really enjoy your pithy comments on us urban fakesters and what have you.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Another flatterer. RT @BinaShah Guys, follow @TristramPerry. He’s giving away an iPad 2 to his 1000th follower! RT.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    LOL RT @TristramPerry #FF most influential Pakistanis onTwitter: @BinaShah @Mehmal @jehan_ara @thekarachikid @shehrbanotaseer @SundusRasheed

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    LOL. @BinaShah who according to @TristramPerry is one of most influential Pakistanis on Twitter has now decided to “protect her tweets”.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    While all three of you –> @UroojZia @TristramPerry @samishah are taking cheap shots at PPP politicians, any comment on Gen Pasha?

    Laibaah
    @TristramPerry You are as uninformed and urban centric as any other urban-liberal of Pakistan. cc @mehmal @binashah

    TristramPerry Tristram Perry
    @saniaslaeem Guilty as charged. Also an obscurantist Veblenian Bonapartist, too. @Laibaah @mehmal @binashah

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    @saniaslaeem nazar andaaz karo issay. khasyana billa khamba nochay. 🙂 @TristramPerry @mehmal @binashah

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Birds of a feather? RT @laalshah RT @TristramPerry: Sitting with @mehreenkasana @Amara807 @Mehmal @theRealYLH drinking tea.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Next, I will RT to demonstrate how a urban flatterer of @TristramPerry is so obviously annoyed.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Credit of flattery? RT @samishah #ThatAwkwardMomentWhen you realize @Laibaah’s entire strategy is to take credit for other people’s work.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Civility please! RT @samishah #ThatAwkwardMomentWhen you realize angrily tweeting about @Laibaah has had no effect on erection.

    Laibaah Laiba Ahmad Marri
    Urban elite is a mindset. RT @samishah When you realize @Laibaah lives in America while calling you “elite”

    jehan_ara jehan_ara
    #FF @TristramPerry – an Amercian who is accepted as part of the PK social media scene & the Lahore twitterati; has a weird sense of humor 🙂

    TristramPerry Tristram Perry
    According to Klout, I’m influential on the topics of Pakistan, coffee and food. Time to move to DC and open up my own think tank. Or bakery.

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