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British Secular Muslims reject Mehdi Hasan’s obfuscation of Wahhabi Deobandi terrorism

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British Secular Muslims reject apologist and obfuscating stance of British journalist Mehdi Hasan on global terrorism by Wahhabi Deobandi Islamists.

Mehdi Hasan is a presenter of Al Jazeera Television and a political editor of UK version of The Huffington Post. British Secular Muslims are worried that a journalist and opinion maker of his stature is misguiding not only Western audience but is also hurting the interests of secular and moderate Muslims across the globe.

Mehdi Hasan’s recent address at Oxford Union debate on Islam has gone viral, and many Muslims, including some avowedly pro-Taliban and pro-Jihadist Salafi-Wahhabi Deobandi websites, cannot contain themselves in celebrating his accented spunk in defending the faith while attacking the Judeo-Christian heritage.

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Mehdi’s bluster is impressive but fails to convince.

The crux of Mehdi’s thesis is that Islam and Muslims cannot be blamed for the epidemic of violence that emanates from its midst. And he supports that by stating that the motivating force is secular, economic and political factors rather than religion.

That line of argument is disingenuous to say the least. Economic and political issues drive anything anyone does anywhere, but that does not mean that religion is not then used to motivate and justify the violence accompanying political objectives.

One may hypothesize that all Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi Khilafah or Shariah lovers are liberal, secular creed but that does not stop them from using religion ruthlessly to achieve their earthly objectives.

There is considerable material within the Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi interpretations of the Quran and the Haidht that can motivate the believer to act violently for heavenly rewards, even if in reality he is being manipulated to achieve cynical political objectives. That is an issue, which ‘Liberal Muslims’ such as Maajid Nawaz, Mehdi Hasan etc refuse to acknowledge. The question that should be vexing such Muslims is not that why are the peace loving majority tainted for the sins of the very few, but rather how can religion be stopped being used by minority Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi Takfiris to motivate violence and excuse oppression.

Those who think suicide bombings have no connection with the belief system might need to explain why there are no Sunni Sufi, Shia or Ahmadi suicide bombers. Today, the Salafi-Wahhabi or Deobandi suicide bomber feels he is acting nobly and will thus be eternally rewarded.

Throughout history it is not the majority 93% (the number Mehdi claims are peace loving Muslims) but rather the small highly motivated minority (Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi in the context of Islam) who cause the greatest mischief. Very often it is this 7% that set the agenda and doom the fate of many for generations to come.

We ask Mehdi Hasan: Can we treat or defend Islam as a unitary religion, wiping out or denying the Salafi-Wahhabi, Deobandi aspect of violence against all others including Sunni and Shia Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, secularists, liberals etc?

In the context of Pakistan, at least 21,000 Shia Muslims have been killed by Takfiri Deobandi (semi-Wahhabi) terrorists in recent decades. Can Shia genocide by Deobandi and Salafi-Wahhabis in Pakistan and elsewhere be attributed to a secular cause?

Mahdi Hasan is an example of a typical apologist for extremist Muslims such as Takfiri Deobandis and Takfiri Salafi-Wahhabis. He presents Muslims as a monolithic group. In reality, Takfiri extremists belonging to Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi sects are at the forefront of terrorism and extremism and it is dishonest to pass on the blame onto Jews and Christians. Imperialism is not restricted to any religion and Saudi-Wahabi imperialism needs to be addressed – Muslims simply cannot afford the ostrich mentality of people like Mehdi Hasan.

In a recent article in The Independent, veteran journalist Robert Fisk provides a good response to Mehdi’s articulate dishonesty at Oxford. Fisk argues that instead of hiding the Muslim or Middle Eastern or Pakistani identity, all criminals must be clearly stated with their ethnic, religious or political identity as appropriate to understand the context and nature of their crime. In other words, instead of obfuscating the Salafi-Wahhabi and Deobandi identity of terrorists and lumping them with all Muslims, they must be clearly named and condemned and their ideological sources of Saudi Salafi hatred must be categorically exposed and confronted.

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  • Why should ordinary peaceful Sunni Sufis/Barelvis, Shias, Ahmadis etc apologize for the blatantly violent acts of terror by Wahhabi Salafi and Deobandi terrorists?

    Why should we deny the fact that almost 100 per cent of terrorist acts since and including 9/11 in the USA, Europe and other parts of the world in the name of Islam have been carried out by Wahhabi Salafi and Deobandi terrorists?

    Why should we hide the fact that Wahhabi Salafi and Deobandi terrorists have killed a much larger number of peaceful Sunni and Shia Muslims than they have killed Christians, Jews, Hindus, atheists etc?

    By lumping Wahhabi Salafi and Deobandi terrorists, by hiding the intolerant, violent and reactionary roots of Salafi Wahhabi and Deobandi ideology in the shame of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab, Ibn Taymiyyah, Sayyid Qutb, Maudoodi etc, fake liberals such as Mehdi Hasan, Maajid Nawaz serve to hide the identity and motives of criminals and terrorists and enable further acts of violence in the name of Islam.

    Denial and apologia is not the way forward to tackle the Wahhabi Deobandi menace that emanates from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries.

  • Peja Mistri – facebook:

    This guy Mahdi Hassan epitomises everything that is wrong in British Muslims society, these people constitutes the ticking bomb, that will explode once a critical mass is achieved with having enough of such persons along with people like Anjem Chaudhary.

  • i could’nt understand the stance of this website LUBP regarding Wahhabies aka Ahl e Hadeeth.
    Here in this post as well as in many others,the author has criticized wahhabies for their violent views and in another post you were defending them against deobandis.

  • @Hussain Ali Shah

    In Pakistan, Shia genocide and attacks on Sunni Barelvi, Ahmadis etc is almost entirely a Deobandi phenomenon. Elsewhere Wahhabi Salafis are directly involved in murder of Shias, Ahmadis, Sufis, Christians etc.

  • The most cruel thing that these sort of guys are given so much credibility in the western intellectual circles. All arguments (although most of them were illogical deductions and not arguments) can easily be dismantled one by one if he speaks a bit slowly.

  • Blair Supporter ‏@blairsupporter 8h
    Time to call out Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan for what he is. A #hater of all non-Muslims, not just non-believers. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan#Islam_and_Muslims

    Blair Supporter ‏@blairsupporter 36m
    Dear @mehdirhasan “words have consequences … Frankly, you should [still] be ashamed of yourself. Imho. @DanJonCole

    Mehdi Hasan ‏@mehdirhasan 11m
    @blairsupporter @DanJonCole I agree, words have consequences. They were taken out of context but still, I regret them http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/05/25/arianna-huffington-new-uk-political-director-brings-pro-iran-baggage-large/

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    Hasan has been criticised for his remarks on religion.[19] During a speech in 2009,[20] quoting the Quran, Hasan said to an audience: “The kuffar, the disbelievers, the atheists who remain deaf and stubborn to the teachings of Islam, the rational message of the Koran; they are described in the Koran as “a people of no intelligence”, Allah describes them as not of no morality, not as people of no belief – people of “no intelligence” – because they’re incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off those blind prejudices, to shake off those easy assumptions about this world, about the existence of God. In this respect, the Koran describes the atheists as “cattle”, as cattle of those who grow the crops and do not stop and wonder about this world.”[19]
    In response to criticism over the use of the term “cattle” to describe non-believers, Hasan wrote in his New Statesman blog: “The Quranic phrase ‘people of no intelligence’ simply and narrowly refers to the fact that Muslims regard their views on God as the only intellectually tenable position, just as atheists (like Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris) regard believers as fundamentally irrational and, even, mentally deficient.”[21]

  • I am a Deobandi myself and I reject this article as a piece of crap. Deobandi is not a separate sect rather this name is attributed to those Sunnis who have graduates from madrassas affiliated with Darul-uloom Deoband in India. Shedding the blood of innocent people is a crime against humanity and this is what Ulema of Deoband have taught us

    • Take a deep breath, open your eyes and critically review Deobandis. You will see two two categories: 1. Takfiris: Glorifiers of Yazid —- they are hypocrites who have apparently taken refuge behind the name of Imam Abu-Hanifa. They are all pieces of ideological crap. 2. Non-Takfiris: They are Hanafi Muslims and dislike Yazid, violence and Takfir. Decide yourself to whom you want to be with.

  • Mehdi Hasan ‏@mehdirhasan 2h
    A quarter of a million people have viewed my Islam speech since it was uploaded 7 days ago. Am amazed/grateful. Tks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9tNyp03M0

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri 2m
    @mehdirhasan If by any chance you are a Shia, many in that quarter of a million viewers may condemn you, some may even want to kill a Shia.

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri 2m
    @mehdirhasan What I mean to say is that apologizing for and obfuscating Wahhabi Deobandi terrorism is neither a service to Islam nor to West

    Murtaza ‏@MurtazzaHasan 13s
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehdirhasan a quarter of takfiri inspired wahabi salafi deobandi goons liked his video. amazing.

    Murtaza ‏@MurtazzaHasan 18s
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehdirhasan if he’s a shia, which i doubt, he is british form of pakistani ejaz haider

    Ale Natiq ‏@alexpressed 19m
    On Mehdi Hasan’s cautious promotion of Salafi terrorists at Oxford Union Debate…. http://fb.me/6oBpJRUKR

    Jaafer Tayyar ‏@jaafertayyar 1h
    @mehdirhasan any reply to this —->>> ?? would really appreciate http://britishsecularmuslims.wordpress.com/2013/07/11/british-secular-muslims-reject-mehdi-hasans-apologist-stance-on-wahhabi-deobandi-terrorism/

  • Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 57m
    And this article here is the perfect manifestation of such intellectual dishonesty: http://britishsecularmuslims.wordpress.com/2013/07/11/british-secular-muslims-reject-mehdi-hasans-apologist-stance-on-wahhabi-deobandi-terrorism/

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 1h
    I fervently agree with criticisms of Salafi-Wahabi mindset. But to deem the rest of the factions as fundamentally peaceful is moronic.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 24m
    @SalmanLateef Fundamentally peaceful? Now that’s bland strawman. It’s, however, a fact that terrorism is a Wahhabi Deobandi phenomenon.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 22m
    @Sunni4Peace Tell me then, don’t all factions of Islam deem certain people as kafir, believe they will go to hell and are exclusivists?

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 21m
    @Sunni4Peace And if must we relate violence with ideology, there’s a LOT that is shared between Wahabbis, Sunnis and Shias.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 21m
    @SalmanLateef That’s not only true of Islam but almost all religions. However, that’s not the point being debated here. Terrorism is!

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 20m
    @Sunni4Peace Again, I agree that Wahabi-Salafi folks are responsible for nearly all terrorism perpetuated on the name of Islam globally.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 1h
    ‘Why there are no Sunni Sufi, Shia or Ahmadi suicide bombers’ – perhaps because all of them are in minorities? Stupid line of discourse.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 25m
    @SalmanLateef Shias are in majority in Iraq, Iran, N. Yemen, Bahrain, Azerbaijan etc. Sunni Sufis are in majority in many Muslim countries.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 1h
    Shi’ite Islam contains the sane ‘dangerous interpretations’ which can be used by individuals to justify violence. Intellectual dishonesty.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 26m
    @SalmanLateef Why is there no Sunni Sufi or Barelvi suicide bomber or terrorist?

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 1h
    It is very amusing to note that when criticizing Salafai-Wahabbi mindset, many conveniently deem the Shi’ite Islam as the hallmark of peace.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 22m
    @Sunni4Peace And if must we relate violence with ideology, there’s a LOT that is shared between Wahabbis, Sunnis and Shias.
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    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 21m
    @SalmanLateef Wahhabi and semi-Wahhabi (Deobandi) approach to violence and terrorism can’t be compared with that of Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi.
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    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 20m
    @Sunni4Peace It can’t be, agreed. But to say that Sunnia, Shia and Ahmadi believe in a totally peaceful ideology – untrue.
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    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 18m
    @SalmanLateef The article you referred to by British Secular Muslims doesn’t make any such claim.
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    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 13m
    @Sunni4Peace The article grilled Wahabbi ideology and held it responsible for violence. Very rightly so.
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    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 12m
    @Sunni4Peace But when it came to Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi beliefs: it cited ‘practices’ as proof of peace, ignored ideology. Unfair.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 21m
    @SalmanLateef In Pakistan, violence is the monopoly of our Deobandi brothers, unfortunately.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef
    @Sunni4Peace It can’t be, agreed. But to say that Sunnia, Shia and Ahmadi believe in a totally peaceful ideology – untrue.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 19m
    @SalmanLateef The article you referred to by British Secular Muslims doesn’t make any such claim.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 14m
    @Sunni4Peace The article grilled Wahabbi ideology and held it responsible for violence. Very rightly so.

    Salman Latif ‏@SalmanLateef 13m
    @Sunni4Peace But when it came to Sunni, Shia, Ahmadi beliefs: it cited ‘practices’ as proof of peace, ignored ideology. Unfair.

    Sunni4Peace ‏@Sunni4Peace 10m
    @SalmanLateef There must be something ideologically different to make practices different too. No?

  • here in this post you have generalized all wahhabis as terrorists whereas in a post regarding IK’s appeal for votes you have declared the term qadiyani pejorative,neglecting the fact that Qadiyani,Deobandi and Brelvi are called so due to the names of the places in present India.
    Wahhabies had changed their official sect name to Ahl e Hadeeth ,but calling them wahhabi does’nt seem pejorative to you,instad calling Qadiyanis as Qadiyanis seem pejorative to you.
    i must say ‘wah re insaaf’

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