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    Election season: PML-N, ASWJ reach consensus
    By Abdul Manan
    Published: September 30, 2012

    Opposition party will give the go-ahead to ASWJ to contest the election for three NA seats. PHOTO: FILE
    LAHORE:
    A covert understanding between the Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) and Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat (ASWJ) is said to have reached a consensus on seat adjustments in the Punjab and National Assembly in the upcoming general elections, well placed sources told The Express Tribune.
    According to the sources, PML-N’s Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah Khan met with ASWJ chief Maulana Mohammad Ahmed Ludhianvi to discuss the seat adjustments, particularly in South Punjab.
    ASWJ, which formerly operated as the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, has a strong vote bank in many constituencies of Punjab, particularly in South Punjab, which forced the PML-N’s think tank to strike a deal with it over seat adjustments.
    According to the deal, the PML-N will give the go-ahead to ASWJ to contest the election for three NA seats with the PML-N’s support, while in exchange the ASWJ will withdraw its candidates from contesting around 12 NA seats across Punjab whose votes often play a vital role in helping candidates win.
    The sources also said that the head of the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) Malik Ishaq, who recently joined the ASWJ, could possibly be one of the candidates fielded by the ASWJ to contest the election for any NA seat that could be vacated in South Punjab.
    However they added that if Malik Ishaq was not allowed to contest the election, then his son Malik Usman will be fielded as a candidate for either the provincial assembly or the NA.
    Expected seat adjustments
    Sources said the PML-N will not field its candidate from the NA-89 constituency of Jhang as Ludhyanvi will contest that seat, which is currently occupied by PML-Q’s Sheikh Waqar Akram. It will not field its candidate for the NA-184 constituency which will be contested by ASWJ’s Rao Javeed. Currently PPP’s Khadija Aamir Yar Malik occupies the seat.
    In exchange, in Bahawalpur division, ASWJ will support PML-N’s Mian Imtiaz from the NA-196 constituency which is occupied by Javed Iqbal Warraich of the PPP. ASWJ will not field a candidate for the NA-186 constituency, which will be contested by PML-N’s Riaz Hussain Pirzada, who recently switched allegiances from the PML-Q. ASWJ will also try its best to convince Maulana Moeen Wattoo to let MNA Mian Khadim Hussain contest the NA-188 constituency.
    Sources said that if PPP MNA Jamshed Dasti decides to contest the NA-177 constituency, then ASWJ might field Malik Ishaq or his son Malik Usman for the seat. ASWJ will support PML-N’s candidate for the NA-156 constituency. ASWJ will also support PML-N candidates for all seats of Faisalabad, Sheikhupura, Gujranawala, Sheikhupura divisions and some areas of Sargodha.
    Speaking to The Express Tribune, Ludhyanvi confirmed the talks between PNL-N and ASWJ and said the recent support and cooperation between the two would continue. “Both parties could not do without each other and history shows that our voters are willing to see us united,” he added.
    Malik Usman told The Express Tribune the decision on which constituencies the ASWJ will contest will be taken by the party itself.
    PML-N’s Central Information Secretary Mushahidullah Khan said that although the party was in talks with religious parties, he could not share details of the talks with ASWJ as its discussions were still ongoing.
    Published in The Express Tribune, September 30th, 2012.
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    VoiceOFgilgit
    7 hours ago
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    If this alliance has been with PTi then it wold be a Talbanization, but now its with PMLN and will be OK for most of old dominant minds fellows, think Pakistan…….
    Recommend28

    Tribal Insafian
    7 hours ago
    Reply
    So PMLN will support Malik Ishaq for MNA?
    Was this unexpected BTW?
    @Ch Allah Dad: Where are you? 😛
    Recommend23

    Taz100
    7 hours ago
    Reply
    PMLN is the party that plays on division…InshALLAH will vote for PTI!
    Recommend21

    Taz100
    7 hours ago
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    Great! now would the so-called liberals bash PTI on this one too? lol
    Recommend16

    Agha
    7 hours ago
    Reply
    I would suggest shias to leave Pakistan or standup and fight because if ASWJ win things are going to get really ugly.
    Recommend9

    Rida
    7 hours ago
    Reply
    It is simply disgusting for any mainstream democratic party to seek support of ASWJ. Shame on PML-N
    Recommend29

    Freedom Seeker
    7 hours ago
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    Finally cat is out of sack. PML-N has long been supporter of terrorist out fits like ASWJ and LeJ. Now they are showing their ugly face to public. Pakistani will reject this alliance and PML-N in coming election.
    Recommend22

    Majid
    7 hours ago
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    Nice move. PMLN is particularly obliged to take this route due to PTI backstabbing PMLN’s right wing vote and PPP’s ethnic politics in South Punjab.
    Recommend6

    riz
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    religious parties should be brought into mainstream politices to curb extremism;
    Recommend4

    faraz anwar
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    This clearly shows that PML N supports ASWJ activities : (
    Shame on PML N and Rana Sanaullah.
    Recommend18

    Bilal Magsi
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    PML has once again proved that it has not broken ties with its past and following the legacy of Zia ul Haq. Hypocrisy and dual standards. Nothing has changed.
    Recommend14

    Logic. Europe
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    No limit on how low pmln can go,
    Recommend18

    Q
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    Boycott PML-N in the next elections.
    Recommend24

    Feeka
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    Feeka seeks CJ’s notice on this axis of evil.
    Recommend8

    Hellfire
    6 hours ago
    Reply
    PML-N showing its true colors! One reason for the growing extremism in the Punjab is the PML-N’s policy of appeasement and even overt support to various sectarian outfits. How low can they stoop in their bid to win a few seats. Let this make sure they lose the 20-25% Shia vote.
    Recommend13

    Leopard
    5 hours ago
    Reply
    If such an agreement concluded will the last nail in the coffin of liberal civil society of the nation.
    Recommend5

    Ch Naveed
    5 hours ago
    Reply
    Good news for pmln…. that wil pmln in south punjab…remember last time ASWJ supported PPP……
    Recommend2

    Zia-Zinda-Hai
    5 hours ago
    Reply
    PML-N alliance again with their ‘Militant Wing’.
    Recommend11

    Sheharyar
    5 hours ago
    Reply
    Seat adjustment with a party who openly says that they will kill Shia’s. Pathetic move by PMLN by joining hands with extremists. Shame PMLN Shame!
    Recommend14

    huzaifa
    5 hours ago
    Reply
    Oh! my God, oh! my God, oh! my God????????
    Recommend11

    fawad-against
    4 hours ago
    Reply
    I always find good reasons to vote again N league.they politics is based on use off force.Allaince with banned outfit is real face of N.Should be defeated heaviily
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    Parvez
    4 hours ago
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    I read somewhere that ASWJ was a banned party, so how is this possible.
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    Khalq e Khuda
    3 hours ago
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    Every passing day I am more and more thankful to PPP and MQM for keeping the scourge of PMLN out of Sindh. PMLN might win a few more seats in elections but it is surely going to divide the nation by alienating 30 percent of Shia, Christian, Hindu and Ahmedi population.
    Recommend2

    Careless Whispers
    3 hours ago
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    in my honest opinion its a good move, we need to bring these people into main stream politics, to keep them away from exploring other options..
    Recommend1

    Pakistani
    3 hours ago
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    Shame on PMLN.. and PTI.. MQM is only true secular party in Pakistan
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    Parvez
    3 hours ago
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    Nawaz Sharif thinks he’s using the ASWJ but in fact its the other way around, but then Nawaz really was never a thinker.
    Recommend1

  • Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    #PMLN managed to get it removed from our website. My article divulge covert deal b/w Sharifs n ASWJ per http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027 via @etribune

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    Aha. Did @etribune remove its story on PMLN and ASWJ alliance? Threatened or bribed?

    omar r quraishi ‏@omar_quraishi
    Excellent story by Abdul Manan in possible alliance between PML-N and AWSJ for election http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027

    The Devil’s Advocate ‏@TheRealLahori
    Bro @omar_quraishi tell the man-in-charge that he forgot to remove PMLN LeJ/SS Election Alliance from this link http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027 #LOL

    Sikander Fayyaz ‏@SikanderFyazPTI
    Somebody please tell @etribune that PMLN-Sipah Sahaba story is still there on print version http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027 #LOLmoment

    Awab Alvi ‏@DrAwab
    A @PML printed article falls victim to @etribune webdesk, all the justifications to delete PML-hurting reports?

    Humayun Mir ‏@H_Mir
    #PML-N #SSP alliance Once again @etribune removed report; like after reporting Malik Ishaq was getting stipend from Punjab govt.

    naif sultan ‏@naif_sultan
    RT @iamthedrifter: Super!!!!Election season: PML-N, ASWJ reach consensus http://tribune.com.pk/story/444637/election-season-pml-n-aswj-reach-consensus/ via @etribune

    M. Adeel Yahya Bodla ‏@adeelbodla
    Shame on express tribune for removing article which exposed PML-N’s deep ties with Sectarian killers of Sipah e Sahaba & Jhangvi #etribune

    Sikander Fayyaz ‏@SikanderFyazPTI
    @etribune, incidents like these, whr u remove stories related to a certain political party, aren’t good for ur already dwindling credibilty.

    Karachi_Post ‏@Karachi_Post
    Shame on @etribune for removing article which exposed PML-N’s deep ties with Sectarian killers of Sipah e Sahaba & Jhangvi #Pakistan #lahore

  • Tazish Fareed ‏@Tazish100
    @manan189 Your report has been removed from ET, Y? How much sharifs influence the media?

    Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    @Tazish100 You can’t imagine. Sharifs wanted to run media like Itefaq foundry. But ultimately they will lose

    Ahsan Iqbal ‏@betterpakistan
    Very irresponsible, slanderous & malicious story by Express Tribune on PMLN and SSP electoral alliance. Strongly contradicted & condemned.

    Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    #Wani is not working for the betterment of the #PMLN, b understand RT @betterpakistan: Very irresponsible, … http://m.tmi.me/xz5SQ

    Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    If NO y #PMLN frustrate n get removed 4rm web RT @SaleemFarrukh: @betterpakistan Sir, do you mean no alliance between PML(N) and ASWJ?

    Ayesha Siddiqa ‏@iamthedrifter
    someone has removed the news from ET website abut PML-N & SSP seat adjustment is it order to hide

    Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    @iamthedrifter that was one of my several articles which r get removed 4rm our website. #PMLN #Wani @betterpakistan should reply it

    farrukh saleem ‏@SaleemFarrukh
    @betterpakistan Sir, do you mean no alliance between PML(N) and ASWJ?

    Ahsan Iqbal ‏@betterpakistan
    @SaleemFarrukh yes

    Ahmad Naeem ‏@AhNaeem
    @betterpakistan @SaleemFarrukh are you positive that it isnt a covert operation under Rana Sana Ullah which you arent aware of?

    Muhammad Asif Seemab ‏@AsifSeemab
    @betterpakistan Please also mention ‘expiry date’ of this statement. Thanks. @SaleemFarrukh

    Annus Younus ‏@Anas_Younus
    @betterpakistan @SaleemFarrukh A pic from PP-82 By-election http://i45.tinypic.com/2isz8e8.jpg http://t.co/M1zO7BEk So why should we belive U this time?

    Annus Younus ‏@Anas_Younus
    @Anas_Younus @betterpakistan @SaleemFarrukh If you did it for ONE seat, why would you not do it for dozen seats as suggested by report?

  • omar r quraishi ‏@omar_quraishi
    Excellent story by Abdul Manan in possible alliance between PML-N and AWSJ for election http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027

    Abdul Manan ‏@manan189
    #PMLN managed to get it removed from our website. My article divulge covert deal b/w Sharifs n ASWJ per http://etribune.express.com.pk/DisplayDetails.aspx?ENI_ID=11201209300150&EN_ID=11201209300111&EMID=11201209300027 via @etribune

    Jahanzaib Haque ‏@jhaque_
    Threatened or bribed? Express Tribune removes report on PML-N’s alliance with Sipah-e-Sahaba http://bit.ly/UDwfzp

    farahnaz ispahani ‏@fispahani
    Hmmm.. RT @jhaque_: Threatened or bribed? Express Tribune removes report on PML-N’s alliance with Sipah-e-Sahaba http://bit.ly/UDwfzp

    2h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @fispahani @jhaque_ Maybe,it was a simple retraction because it couldn’t be substantiated?

    2h Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Shah se barh kar… Did you read tweets by ET’own staff? @fispahani @jhaque_

    1h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri @fispahani @jhaque_ Who’s Shah?I said ths in the morn.Whts the big deal abt offring an opinion?I shld say wht othr ppl want?

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Don’t add to obfuscation and denial on #ShiaGenocide please. You have a clear pattern of doing that. Very sad.

    ehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Wht is yr problem?Ths is whts wrong wt ppl.Yes,I dont think Nawaz Sharif & Shahbaz Sharif are killing anyone.Kill me 4 tht.

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Good for you.

    1h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Yes,I have a clear pattern of thinking people are not monsters.Only some ppl r evil.We shld all bow down to u for that?

    1h Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar That’s a separate topic.

    Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri No matter wht u say.Label ppl monsters.Call me anything.I will NEVER say our brothers Shias are our target.WONT

    1h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri You want to penalise the whole world for the sins of a few;I refuse to do that.Good luck and good night.

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Goodnight

    1h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri No matter wht u say.Label ppl monsters.Call me anything.I will NEVER say our brothers Shias are our target.WONT

    1h Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar What do you mean by “our target”? Who is “our”?

    1h Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Don’t owe u or any one any explanation.Pls engage wt someone who believe people are monsters.I hv my own issues to deal with

    58m Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar You don’t owe me an explanation, but victims of #ShiaGenocide may be perturbed by your obfuscations and denials. Good luck!

    53m Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Good to know my TWEET abt an ET article,a rival paper has tht kinda power.Keep penalising people on Twitter.Good luck/

    BalochFaryad ‏@BalochFaryad
    Take a close look at @AbdulNishapuri s TL this how you confront someone not by beginning or ending ur statements by “lol”.

    farid alvie ‏@faridalvie
    @fispahani @iamthedrifter didn’t ahsan iqbal deny the report and alliance?

    farahnaz ispahani ‏@fispahani
    @faridalvie @iamthedrifter if their reporting ws wrong they shld have apologized.If factual then they shld have included N denial in story

    Ayesha Siddiqa ‏@iamthedrifter
    @fispahani @faridalvie wasn’t wrong just had to be pushed out of sight

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @KamranShafi46 Here’s another one: http://t.co/kNrB7XyK and http://criticalppp.com/archives/229286 @fispahani @iamthedrifter

    farahnaz ispahani ‏@fispahani
    @KamranShafi46 @iamthedrifter ET removed a story that demonstrated links btwn N and Extremist groups.

    Ayesha Siddiqa ‏@iamthedrifter
    @fispahani @jhaque_ looks like bribed 🙂

    Ayesha Siddiqa ‏@iamthedrifter
    @fispahani will DM details but upshot the independent vibrant media is very slimy

  • “At least 50% of Pakistani Shias consider Sunnis as non-Muslims”, claims Daily Times editor

    http://worldshiaforum.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/at-least-50-of-pakistani-shias-consider-sunnis-as-non-muslims-claims-daily-times-editor/

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar I agree, but that doesn’t answer my question.

    13mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Just b/c sme ppl r jerks,it doesnt mean th majority holds tht view.We are ALL Muslims.Believe in Allah,Quran,Prophet(PBUH)

    15mM.Yahya ‏@Gorgh
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar Shia Hujjaj offer their 5 times prayers behind Sunni Imam(prayer ldr) in Kaaba (Mecca) & Medina.

    Mahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar I ve pity for ur Shia friends’ views for Sunnis but what I can assure is these TAKFIRIs far far less than mentioned 50%

    10mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar We hope similarly u would be generous to categorize your TAKFIRI Shias friends as JERKs & SOME & would stay away from the morrons

    20mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar You wish to see some samples on Twitter? I dare you to show a similar sample from Shia Twitterati.
    Retweeted by Mahdi Baloch

    22mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar May God save you and ebery human from the best fiend Shias who say “Sunnis r non-muslims”. But u ve got v good friends

    27mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar I m sure no Shia would ve ever said in front of u “u ppl must be killed”, now ask us how we live our lives

    28mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar Mam which few ppl? Ludhanivi says all this on TV infront of millions, biggest seminary in number & followup BANORIA & still few?

    32mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar All I can say is better to stay away from these Shia friends, they can be anything but followers of Ali & Hussain. Kind regards

    33mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar sunnis r kafir. I trust your interaction but I don’t know where these Morrons one can find.

    35mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar Pak Sunni scholars’ views on Shias. Finally ur interaction is better, I lived my life with Shias but couldn’t find single who say

    36mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar Would be better to ask what Shia scholars say? Kindly tell us how many Shia scholars say this? I can send u books of KSA, Egypt

    38mMahdi Baloch ‏@MahdiBaloch
    @MehrTarar If u r going for ur personal interactions how many Shias told u “Sunnis must be killed”, I remember atleat 2.

    17mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar You wish to see some samples on Twitter? I dare you to show a similar sample from Shia Twitterati.

    19mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Btw, not a single SUNNI out of many who participated in this conversation today said she/he considers Shias as non-Muslims

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Btw, not a single Shia out of many who participated in this conversation today said s/he considers Sunnis as non-Muslims.

    Mehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri @KarrarrHussain Help Muslims.Try 2 find a unfying narrtive instd of psting statemnts basd on divisive truth of a FEW by PEW

    1mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar I am a Shia. And I don’t hold any such view. Neither do my people. I attend Majlis. I don’t hear any such thing. 🙂

    2mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar A rally against Shia genocide is held and is thinly attended. Voices on mainstream media are quiet. So on and so forth.

    2mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar Defusing the tension doesnt mean denying the reality.Genocide u see on the streets by a Takfiri group is being met with silence>

    4mHasnain Akhtar ‏@hasnain300
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar I am Shia ,donot consider so

    4mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri You’re being dismissive, ma`am. Emotions are respected, but not a criterion to adjudge an empirical study. 🙂

    5mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @KarrarrHussain Hw abt trying 2 defuse tnsions b/w Muslims by NOT making thse foreign surveys basd on intraction wth a FEW ppl so IMPORTANT?

    5mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar We too care for you and don’t consider you or Sunnis as non-Muslims. At least include use in your sample 🙂 @KarrarrHussain

    6mShiaHazaraGirl ‏@ShiaHazara1
    @MehrTarar V only want u not to generalize Shias on the whole & present it to the World. Anti-Muslims flame up these issues. Else, one Ummah

    6mHyder ‏@pirhyderali
    @MehrTarar @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1 @AbdulNishapuri a year, but considers sunnis non-Muslims, says it openly in discussions

    7mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @KarrarrHussain @AbdulNishapuri And Karrar,neither do I. Again.it;s based on Shias I knw personally,who are like family to me. We dont care

    7mA Abbas ‏@Abbas_Bay
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar Sunnis are Muslims according to all Shia Ulema big or small, extreme and liberal they are Muslim.

    8mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar We all know you as a caring editor. Emphasis here was: Please, don’t state something empirically contestable. That’s it.

    9mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @nrehman @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri Personal experiences are the parameters to judge a community? Don’t we see the teachings?

    9mHyder ‏@pirhyderali
    @MehrTarar @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1 @AbdulNishapuri ’vvv strong-faithed’ oh please, my shia friend only goes to imambargah twice

    10mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar That’s a remarkable exaggeration of its kind, ma`am. Your few friends don’t constitute 50%. Again,empirical evidence is needed

    10mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @ShiaHazara1 Anyone who knows me how strongly I feel abt this issue.To me all of us are Muslims living together.

    11mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar @ShiaHazara1 Let we see Shia Clerics emphasis on Sunni-Shia unity.this will give also clear all ambiguity.

    11mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar I’m sorry but ma`am sounded a bit emotional there. I can assure her that we don’t hold any such view

    11mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @KarrarrHussain Wow.I’m gnralising???Hilarious.The prson who retweetd didnt?Dont hv a problm wth Shias but all the Shias I knw do.I said tht

    13mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar The Grand Ayatollas representing Shia faith are clear. They’re not Takfiris. It’s as clear as that.

    13mAzad ‏@azadtalk
    ‎@circuitcity1‏ ‎@AbdulNishapuri‏ ‎@MehrTarar‏ سوال یہ بھی بنتا ہے کونسا سنی فرقہ اپنے دوسرے سنی فرقے کو مسلمان سمجھتا ہے

    13mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar Theologically, I am deficient. But academically, I am all for empirical analysis. So I request you not to be unscientific.

    14mAzad ‏@azadtalk
    ‎@circuitcity1‏ ‎@AbdulNishapuri‏ ‎@MehrTarar‏ مہر تاڑر کے جواب سے لگتا انکی اسلامی تاریخ پر نظر کم ہی پڑی ہے

    15mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1 Empirical data based on questions asked 2 a marked number of the population.And mine was wt Martians?

    15mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar I hold respect for you,ma`am,for being a liberal voice. So I expect a rational rebuttal/evidential refutation than generalization

    16mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @KarrarrHussain @MehrTarar We can help Daily Times in conducting such survey. How’s that? Let’s be scientific & unemotional.

    16mShiaHazaraGirl ‏@ShiaHazara1
    Dear @mehrtarar whenever again any naive Shia says that, plz remind him ‘Muslim brotherhood-foremost priority’ – Grand Shia Cleric.

    17mAdnan Hussain ‏@Adnanhussainxp
    Ayesha Ahad beaten up by PML-N workershttp://www.aaj.tv/2012/09/ayesha-ahad-beaten-up-by-pml-n-workers/@javeednusrat @kdastgirkhan @mughalbha @MehrTarar@fawadchaudhry

    17mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar You are comparing empirical data with your personal experiences & subjective interpretations. No? @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1

    17mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar How about countering that Pew survey with a survey, established and supported by statistics, than generalizing?

    18mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar Your saying ‘vice versa’ was a ‘Phew’ moment for Pew survey. Shia dominated countries don’t hold the view 50% held here.

    18mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1 Sure.Yr gneralisation basd on Pew’s correct.Mine based on prsonal intraction’s not.Of course,Im wrong

    19mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri Not a single shia nor any seminary claiming Sunnis as non-muslims.

    19mKarrar ‏@KarrarrHussain
    @MehrTarar Being a writer and editor,who know better than yourself that generalization is anti-academic,and an antithesis to intellectuality

    19mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Believe me, I too happen to have may Shia friends, and I hope you don’t discount my experience. Why generalize?

    20mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @MehrTarar @ShiaHazara1 @AbdulNishapuri Did you ever see any fatwa from Qum/Najaf Seminaries against Sunnis?? So how could you say that?

    21mAbbas ‏@circuitcity1
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar It is not true at all. Any fatwa by shia scolars?

    22mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar I don’t deny your personal experience. I only disagree with your generalization. @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1

    22mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Not implying anythng.Just saying wht I knw.B4 my Shia friend said it,I didnt evn realise we were different.AND I STILL DONT.

    24mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @mehsoore @ShiaHazara1 @AbdulNishapuri http://Read.Carefully.Th vvv strong-faithed Shias I KNW considr Sunnis non-Muslims.Yet v r best friends.

    24mshahid khan ‏@shah4268
    @MehrTarar @abdulnishapuri No issues Shia Sunnis. Why after 9-11. Bahrain. Syria. Pak. Iraq.Libya.Morroco. Tunis. Who wants us to fight.

    24mIImdad Imam ‏@imdadimam
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar No shia aalim ever issed fatwa of Takfeer of sunnis. We consider sunnis as muslims

    27mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Unlke u I didnt tweet ths to Dear Pakistni Sunnis calling on Sunnis I knw.I stnd by wht I said.Basd on wht’s been said 2 me

    27mNaeem Rehman ‏@nrehman
    @MehrTarar Many Shia friends said the same to me on my face!@abdulnishapuri

    28mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Your truth is appreciated. In other words, you think 50% or all Shias of Pakistan consider Sunnis as non-Muslims. Right?

    29msalman ‏@salman2979
    @MehrTarar @abdulnishapuri despite the differences. No one wants violence against other sects. Only a tiny minority is causing troubles

    31mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri I was being kind.Cldnt have said ALL.Can’t go on abt somethng I know 4 a fact.My apology for speaking the truth

    31mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @ShiaHazara1 @AbdulNishapuri @mehrtarar Our daily dealings with Sunnis are more than those with shias .

    32mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar I don’t deny that a few sectarian Shias in Pakistan might consider Sunnis as non-Muslims. But are they really 50% as you implied?

    33mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Shia friends.My best friend who goes 4 ziarat 2 Iraq twice a yr,sriously religious,said it 2 my face.Thts hw I knw

    34mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Please review your own tweet. You said “And vice versa”. What exactly does vice versa mean?

    35mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Tht’s the diff b/w u&me.I didnt protest as loudly as ur doing b/c I stand by wht I said,based on wht I hv knwn 4 yrs thru my

    35mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar If you read the same survey, you will note that in Shia majority countries, most Shias treat Sunnis as Muslims.

    35meesha ‏@s_eesha
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehrtarar absolutely incorrect!!

    36mHasrat Ali ‏@mehsoore
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar We don’t consider Sunnis as Non-Muslim! .United Ummah(Shia-Sunni) is our slogan

    37mrathorBaba(OFFICIAL) ‏@Ashalrathore
    @AbdulNishapuri its lie n she>>> @MehrTarar talking nonsens things

    37mBlackout ‏@AXEtraordinaire
    @SaroorIjaz @MehrTarar The word ‘B*****” is used to describe how cool she is. :s

    38mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Ergo,I lie.Right?Surveys r based on wht a few ppl say.Wht I’m saying’s the same.Things I’m told.For me Shia/Sunni no diff

    39mShiaHazaraGirl ‏@ShiaHazara1
    @AbdulNishapuri @mehrtarar As if we are asked ‘Is ur brother an atheist?’ . Shias honor Sunnis more than any other sect does.

    41mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri I claim?I know?50 percent?Yr statement is based on an int’l survey.Mine is on my personal interaction.Things said 2 my face.

    43mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    Dear Pakistani Shias: Can you please confirm what @MehrTarar just claimed. Do 50% of you consider Sunnis as non-Muslims?

    43mSaroor Ijaz ‏@SaroorIjaz
    @MehrTarar Would you ever publish such stuff. I am sure you will not.

    44mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @SaroorIjaz You kdding right?No newspaper in Pakistan would allow that to be printed.

    44mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar You claim that 50% of Shias of Pakistan consider Sunnis as non-Muslims and don’t want to furnish evidence. Good going.

    46mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri Do I need the confirmation fm an international survey?Hv many very close friends-Shias-v religious-& I knw wht they say.

    47mAdeel Ahmed ‏@AdeelKhi
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar Good so according Abdul Nishapuri “Suunis are Momins?”,this need to spread everywhere.appreciate your pt of view.

    49mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @AdeelKhi Sunnis are as much a Momin and Muslim as are Ahmadis, Deobandis, Salafis and Shias. @MehrTarar

    49mAdeel Ahmed ‏@AdeelKhi
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar My question is simple “Are Sunni Momin?”, Yes or No.

    50mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @AdeelKhi There is a difference between considering a non-Momin and a non-Muslim. Takfiri mindset at play. @MehrTarar

    51mAdeel Ahmed ‏@AdeelKhi
    @AbdulNishapuri @MehrTarar A simple question ‘Are Sunni Momin?”, pls reply.

    52mAbdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    @MehrTarar Is that too reported in Pew survey?

    58mNaeem Rehman ‏@nrehman
    Well said! Stop looking at one side of the coin only! “@MehrTarar:@AbdulNishapuri And vice versa.”

    58mAdeel Ahmed ‏@AdeelKhi
    @MehrTarar @AbdulNishapuri Even Sunni is not “Momin” according to some, we need to grow up.

    59mMehr Tarar ‏@MehrTarar
    @AbdulNishapuri And vice versa.

    Abdul Nishapuri ‏@AbdulNishapuri
    Only 50 percent Sunnis in Pakistan accept Shias as Muslims – Pew Survey http://shar.es/ubGO4 #ShiaGenocide

  • Bilal Ali Lakhani, Express Tribune’s owner and CEO was directly telephoned by Shahbaz Sharif. Rest as they say is history.

  • PML-N seat to seat adjustment in 6 constituencies with Sipah Sahaba and in final talks with JUIF.

    In Punjab, sources said, the PML-N has decided to make seat adjustments in six constituencies with the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat – formerly known as Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan.

    The PML-N has also contacted the Muttahida Deeni Mahaz (MDM), led by Samiul Haq, to counter Fazlur Rehman-led Mutahidda Majlis-e-Amal in KP.

    http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/12/24/news/national/pml-n-plans-to-lead-grand-alliance/