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Sunni and Shia are two different nations: We demand Hussainistan for Pakistan’s 30 million Shia Muslims

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Only 50 percent Sunnis in Pakistan accept Shias as Muslims – Pew Survey  

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Note: This post reflects the author’s personal opinion and analysis. As such the post does not represent official policy of the LUBP.

With more than 30 million Shias, Pakistan has the second largest Shia Muslim population in the world after Iran (70 million) followed by India (28 million) and Iraq (26 million).

Thirty million Shia Muslims of Pakistan represent a very large population, much larger than most countries in the world.

Thanks to the Nazi style silence in Pakistani and international media, the world is completely oblivious to the genocide of Shia Muslims in Pakistan at the hands of Deobandi terrorist groups. (For detail, visit this databse: https://lubpak.net/archives/132675)

Since mid-1980s, more than 20,000 Shia Muslims, thousands of Sunni Sufis, Sunnis Barelvis, hundreds of Ahmadis, Christians and Hindus have been killed in Pakistan by Saudi-funded Deobandi takfiri militants (known as the Taliban TTP, Sipah-e-Sahaba ASWJ etc).

Pakistan today is not the Sate which was created in 1947 by its founding fathers not only ideologically but also geographically. In 1971, the majority of Pakistan (in terms of population), then East Pakistan and now Bangladesh, decided to separate from Pakistan, and the remainder land of Pakistan remains nothing more than a Deobandi and Salafi Wahhabi dominated state where large sections of the population, particularly from religious and ethnic minority backgrounds, remain persecuted and target killed. The dream of a homeland for Muslims where all Muslims and other ethnic and religious minority groups will be treated with equality and dignity is completely shattered.

Today, Islamic Republic of Pakistan is a State which has miserably failed to protect is citizens who are being killed by Takfiri Deobandi terrorists with and the State apparatus has filed to punish the prepetrators of violence.

Majority of Pakistani citizens of Sunni and other backgrounds remain criminally silent or indifferent. They are not doing anything to stop genocide of Shias and Sunni Sufis while a few Deobandi takfiri criminals freely kill and seek refuge in the mainstream population’s ranks. In fact, only 50 percent of Sunnis in Pakistan accept Shias as Muslims – Pew Survey.  

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Shia Muslims in Pakistan are currently experiencing something which may be described as pre-genocide. A major catastrophe is likely very soon and the State will not be able to control once a full blown civil war begins in Pakistan.

Thanks to generous Saudi funding and Paksitan army’s support to Deobanadi and Salafi Wahahbi clerics, outfits and institutions, peaceful Sunni Sufi and Barelvi popoulation of Pakistan is slowly but garadully converting into radicalized, violent Deobandi and Salafi takfiri terrorists. These Deobandi and other takfiri terrorists then freely kill Shia Muslims in particular but also Sunni Sufis, Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs etc.

State is not a lifeless entity. Army is the backbone of a State when it comes to protecting it, but they are at least indirectly involved in Shia genocide, by nurturing and protecting Jihadist-sectarian Deobandi militant groups. While Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states support and finance these terrorists, the logistics are channelled to Jihadi proxy militants through Pakistan army.

Sunnis are horribly entrapped in a communal mindset. They either remain silent on Shia genocide or try to justify it by blaming Shia faith and rituals. At times they also make an effort to present very few takfiri Deobandi terrorists as representative of Sunni population. Most Sunnis remain indifferent or silent to this genocide.

Shias are routinely harassed, abused and target killed.

Ahmadis are persecuted daily in the Sunni Republic of Pakistan, not even allowed to say Assalam-o-Alaikum.

When the collective society has left the victims alone, what else can we expect?

Pakistan army, judiciary and media are hand in glove with Takfiri terrorists. Ruling political government wants to complete its term at all cost, not bothered about Takfiri extremism, human rights and genocide.

Pakistan has failed to care for Shia Muslims. Shias are probably the only faith group, besides Ahmadis, who are not attacking the State despite their genocide.

If Gandhi or Luther King were alive today, they would envy and eulogize the non-violence of Pakistan’s Shias. Non-violent struggle has given 20,000 deadbodies so far to Pakistan’s Shias. No reprisal attack on army or State, none!

Right from Binori Town Karachi to Jamia Haqqania Akora Khattak to hundreds of Salafi and Deobandi madrassash in all parts of Pakistan, millions of Deobandi and Wahhabi madrassa students, their teachers, Jihadis, and families consider Shias as non-Muslims and Mullah Omar as their Ameer-ul-Momineen.

Such degree of operational space and immunity to Takfiri Deobandi militants suggests more than just state’s incompetence. It’s complicity and collusion.

“Where are the federal and provincial governments and the law-enforcing agencies when the genocide and bloodshed continued seeming unstoppable?”

“Before it becomes a pre-modern hell under Al Qaeda and its followers, it has to accomplish the task begun with the decimation of the Shia:” asks Khaled Ahmed

Shias of Pakistan refuse to be violent but they also refuse to be silent. They have shown they are the followers of Syeda Zainab (granddaughter of Prophet).

How can we expect Shias to love a country in which they are being butchered?

The social contract of 1947 between All India Muslim League and the people of Pakistan has been continuously violated by the State of Pakistan with Shias, Ahmadis, Sunni Barelvis, Christians, Hindus and other persecuted citizens of Pakistan.

Given the ongoing Shia Genocide and collective apathy in Pakistan, it seems that Sunnis and Shias are two different nations.

We are done with our Muslim Ummah brothers. A few are murderers, rest are silent spectators. Nazi style silence prevails in Pakistani society, parliament, political parties, academic institutions, religious seminaries, mosques, markets and other institutions of society.

In the absence of a secular Pakistan free of the Deobandi and Wahhabi dominance, Shias can legitimately demand a new homeland for themselves.

20-30 million Shias of Pakistan can justifiably demand a semi-autonomous province or State for themselves in which they could peacefully live and practice their faith.

Keep in mind Pakistan has at least 7-10 million Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus, 20-30 million Shias. It’s a huge population.

We propose Hussainistan, a new state for 30-40 million Shias, Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus and other minority groups. Our doors are also open for peaceful Sunni Sufi and Sunni Hanafi brothers who are not takfiri in their approach to Shia Muslims.

However, we don’t support any theocratic state whether Sunni, Salafi or Shia. Secular state is our only hope.

Within or without Pakistan, a secular state is the only hope for Pakistan’s Shias (and other persecuted groups). We need Hussainistan, in the name of Imam Hussain who gave his life for values of human rights and freedom.

Hussainistan will be a place in which people of all faiths and ethnicities will be equally valued, and free to practice their lifestyle and faith. Religion will be a private matter.

Of course, there are significant practical hurdles; most importantly Shias are 10-20% of population in almost every Pakistani city and area.

However, given the slow motion Shia Genocide, Pakistani Shias may be left with no other option. Massive human catastrophe is in waiting if a separate province or State is not created for Shias.

It will not be Shia theocratic or sectarian state but a humanist, multicultural state (Hussainistan) where everyone will be valued equally.

In such a state, religion and sects will be made a private matter; the state will be built on a scientific society.

Ahmadi Muslims will be equal to Sunni and Shia in status as well be Christians, Hindus and other communities. All citizens will be equal.

Text books, media, laws will be completely revised to make them equal and non-discriminatory. All hate material and hate ideological narratives will be removed.

Pakistan was manifestly a demand by All India Muslim League, a separate homeland for Muslims. The new province or State we theorize won’t be on the basis of religion alone. It will be on the basis of peace, tolerance and multiculturalism.

Pakistan’s premise was on Islam (Deobandi Wahhabi Islam now). The new province or state’s premise is peace, equality and multiculturalism.

Our bitter experience in Pakistan has forced us to adapt our own version of the Two-Nation Theory: That, the Wahhabi and Deobandi Takfiris (who currently dominate the Sunni sect) and other Pakistanis are two separate nations. In a nutshell, Sunnis and Shias are two different nations. Their value systems, approach towards world peace and violence, heroes and villains are different. These two nations can’t peacefully co-exist in one country. Therefore, Pakistan’s 30-40 million Shia, Ahmadi, Christian, Hindu etc deserve an independent state or semi-autonomous province where they can live in peace and practice their faith without any fear of reprisal or persecution. Eastern part of the Saraiki Waseb and Sindh province bordering India offers best hope for a new multicultural state. Shias and other minority groups should consider relocating to border areas near India. We hope that the United Nations, China, Russia and other world powers will intervene in due course in order to save Pakistan’s Shias, Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus etc from genocide.

Areas with significant Shia population in Pakistan: Gilgit-Baltistan, Parachinar, Quetta, Karachi, Lahore, Dera Ismail Khan, Layyah, Jhang etc.

Gilgit-Baltistan can declare independence from the Deobandi Wahhabi State of Pakistan with the help of the United Nations and China. India will have no objection to allowing Ladakh to be a part of the new Gilgit Baltistan State or to make them an open accessible region.

Kurram Agency will be better off with a much more tolerant Afghanistan instead of being surrounded by Saudi-sponsored  Deobandi and Salafist militants in Tribal Areas. (remember PEW survey; 80% of Afghans consider Shiites as Muslims and only 50% in Pakistan consider Shias as Muslims.)

Shiites from Punjab, Sindh, other areas may find refuge in the new State in the eastern districts of the Saraiki Waseb and upper Sindh.

Shia Hazaras of Quetta may migrate back to Afghanistan where their own provinces and Kabul will be protected by the United Nations Peace Keeping Force as well as by the Afghan National Army.

We don’t support theocracy and organized religion. A secular, multicultural state for the persecuted is the only way out to save innocent lives. We need to save innocent lives. A new state seems to be the only hope to stop genocide.

Pakistan has failed; it was a deception. It was a Deobandi Wahhabi State in the name of Islam. In no other country in the Subcontinent, Shias, Ahmadis etc are facing persecution. It is the Deobandi-Wahhabi State which is evil.

Bangladesh neither derives its identity from religion, nor they have Objective resolution, 22 points, blasphemy law, anti-Ahmadi law etc. Hussainistan will follow the same model. It will be a secular, multicultural society.

We know that Pakhtuns and Balochs didn’t want to be part of Pakistan. Both Pakhtuns and Balochs were first attacked by none other than Jinnah and General Akbar Khan (Pakistan Army). Jinnah dismissed Dr Khan’s government in NWFP, and started military operation in Balochistan. They can choose their own path in due course.

Shias of D.I.Khan, Hangu, other areas are routinely attacked by Deobandi terrorists. Hundreds killed; many migrated, total community shattered. They may wish to migrate to Parachinar or to the Hussainistan (on border with India).

Escaping persecution is a noble tradition. Why sustain death and persecution on a permanent basis? Let Wahhabi-Deobandis rule the 80% of Pakistan. We only need our own 10-20% free area where their evil shadows are not found.

We hope that China, Iran, India, Russia, Western countries will play a role under the UN to save Pakistan’s target killed groups, help create Hussainistan.

Let’s hope moderate Sunnis, in addition to Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus etc too join the Hussainistan project. If not, we must save those who are currently facing genocide.

Our struggle will be ‘Non-Violent political struggle’; we don’t believe in doctrine of armed resistance.

Vision of Hussaianistan

Adapted from Allama Iqbal’s address to All India Muslim League’s Conference in Allahabad.

[[0]] Ladies and Gentlemen, As a concerned Pakistani citizen I am worried about the well being of a large section of Pakistani population (comprising at least 30-40 million Shias, Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis and also some Sunnis, at the most critical moments in the history of Pakistan. I have no doubt that many of those reading these lines are women and men whose political experience is far more extensive than mine, and for whose knowledge of affairs I have the highest respect. It will, therefore, be presumptuous on my part to claim to guide any individual or group. I lead no party; I follow no leader. I have given the best part of my life to a careful study of Pakistani and regional political and societies, law, polity, culture and history. This constant contact with the people of diverse backgrounds, as it unfolds itself in time, has, I think, given me a kind of insight into Pakistan’s most pressing issues including the violation of its very premise and social contract assured by its founding fathers. It is in the light of this insight, whatever its value, that, I propose not to guide you in your decisions, but to attempt the humbler task of bringing clearly to your consciousness the need for a separate semi-autonomous or autonomous geographical region for Pakistan’s persecuted and target killed communities.

[[1]] Islam and Nationalism

[[1a]] It cannot be denied that Islam, regarded as an ethical ideal plus a certain kind of polity – was the chief formative factor in the creation of Pakistan. Past 66 years since Pakistan’s creation in 1947 have shown that Islam or religion per se is not a sufficient reason to create a country or to bind a nation together. The independence of Bangladesh in 1971 and the situation of Balochistan and parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in 2012 are glaring examples. Most of you reading this pot are Muslims and, I suppose, anxious to remain true to the spirit and ideals of Islam. My sole desire, therefore, is to tell you frankly what I honestly believe to be the truth about the present situation. In this way alone it is possible for me to illuminate, according to my light, the avenues of your political action.

[[2]] The Unity of a Pakistani Nation

[[2a]] What, then, is the problem and its implications? Is religion a public affair? Our experience in Pakistan has shown that Islam as a political ideal has met the same fate in the world of Islam as Christianity has already met in Europe. Therefore, the only way forward is to retain Islam as an ethical ideal and to reject it as a polity, in favor of national polities in which the religious attitude is not permitted to play any part. Given that the Pakistani State has allowed on a Takfiri path declaring difference classes of unequal citizens and unequal Muslims, this question becomes of special importance in Pakistan where the Sunni Deobandi-Salafi Muslims happen to be dominant. The proposition that religion is a private individual experience is therefore not surprising for any concerned Pakistani. In Europe the conception of Christianity as a monastic order, renouncing the world of matter and fixing its gaze entirely on the world of spirit, led, by a logical process of thought, to the view embodied in this proposition.

[[2b]] “Man,” says Renan, “is enslaved neither by his race, nor by his religion, nor by the course of rivers, nor by the direction of mountain ranges. A great aggregation of men, sane of mind and warm of heart, creates a moral consciousness which is called a nation.” Such a formation is quite possible, though it involves the long and arduous process of practically remaking men and furnishing them with a fresh emotional equipment. It might have been a fact in India if the teaching of Kabir and the Divine Faith of Akbar had seized the imagination of the masses of this country. Experience, however, shows that the various faiths and sects in Pakistan have shown no inclination to sink their respective individualities in a larger whole. Each group is intensely jealous of its collective existence. The formation of the kind of moral consciousness which constitutes the essence of a nation in Renan’s sense demands a price which the peoples of Pakistan are not prepared to pay.

[[2c]] The unity of a Pakistani nation (or whatever leftover of Pakistan we have since 1971), therefore, must be sought not in the negation, but in the mutual harmony and cooperation, of the many. True statesmanship cannot ignore facts, however unpleasant they may be. The only practical course is not to assume the existence of a state of things which does not exist, but to recognise facts as they are, and to exploit them to our greatest advantage. And it is on the discovery of Pakistani unity in this direction that the fate of Pakistan as well as of South Asia really depends. Part of Pakistani people have cultural affinities with nations of the east, and part with nations in the middle and west of Asia. If an effective principle of cooperation is discovered in Pakistan, it will bring peace and mutual goodwill to this ancient land which has suffered so long, more because of her situation in historic space than because of any inherent incapacity of her people. And it will at the same time solve the entire political problem of Asia.

[[2d]] It is, however, painful to observe that our attempts to discover such a principle of internal harmony have so far failed. Why have they failed? Perhaps we suspect each other’s intentions and inwardly aim at dominating each other. Perhaps, in the higher interests of mutual cooperation, we cannot afford to part with the monopolies which circumstances have placed in our hands, and [thus we] conceal our egoism under the cloak of nationalism, outwardly simulating a large-hearted patriotism, but inwardly as narrow-minded as a caste or tribe. Perhaps we are unwilling to recognise that each group has a right to free development according to its own cultural traditions. But whatever may be the causes of our failure, I still feel hopeful. Events seem to be tending in the direction of some sort of internal harmony. And as far as I have been able to read the Shia Muslim and other persecuted groups’ mind, I have no hesitation in declaring that if the principle that the Shia Muslim is entitled to full and free development on the lines of his own culture and tradition in his own Pakistan home-lands is recognized as the basis of a permanent communal settlement, he will be ready to stake his all for the freedom to live and practice his faith.

[[2e]] The principle that each group is entitled to its free development on its own lines is not inspired by any feeling of narrow communalism. There are communalisms and communalisms. A community which is inspired by feelings of ill-will towards other communities is low and ignoble. I entertain the highest respect for the customs, laws, religious and social institutions of other communities. Nay, it is my duty, according to the teaching of the Quran, even to defend their places of worship, if need be. Yet I love the communal group which is the source of my life and behaviour; and which has formed me what I am by giving me its religion, its literature, its thought, its culture, and thereby recreating its whole past as a living operative factor, in my present consciousness. Even the authors of the Nehru Report recognise the value of this higher aspect of communalism. While discussing the separation of Sind they say, “To say from the larger viewpoint of nationalism that no communal provinces should be created, is, in a way, equivalent to saying from the still wider international viewpoint that there should be no separate nations. Both these statements have a measure of truth in them. But the staunchest internationalist recognises that without the fullest national autonomy it is extraordinarily difficult to create the international State. So also without the fullest cultural autonomy – and communalism in its better aspect is culture – it will be difficult to create a harmonious nation.”

[[3]] Shia Muslims’ and other persecuted groups’ Pakistan Within Pakistan

[[3a]] Communalism in its higher aspect, then, is indispensable to the formation of a harmonious whole in a country like Pakistan. The units of Pakistani society are not territorial as in European countries. Pakistan is a country of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions. Their behaviour is not at all determined by a common race-consciousness or even by a common religion or sect. Even the Muslims do not form a homogeneous group. The principle of European democracy cannot be applied to Pakistan without recognising the fact of communal groups. The Shia Muslim demand for the creation of a Shia Muslim Pakistan within Pakistan is, therefore, perfectly justified. I support the noble ideal of a harmonious whole which, instead of stifling the respective individualities of its component wholes, affords them chances of fully working out the possibilities that may be latent in them. And I have no doubt that all Shias and other persecuted communities will emphatically endorse the Shia Muslim and other persecuted gruops demands for a semi-autonomous province.

[[3b]] Personally, I would like to see the creation of a new Province between India and Pakistan, in the Saraiki speaking areas, towards the Eastern border of Pakistan. The migration of 30-35 million Shias, Ahmadis, Christians from Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Karachi, Quetta, Jhang, D.I.Khan, Hangu, Layyah, Rabwah, Faisalabad etc can result into a new province where such communities will constitute a definite majority; such districts may be amalgamated into a single State. Self-government within the Pakistani federation, or without the Pakistani federation, the formation of a consolidated Shia Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny, at least of parts of current Pakistan. The idea need not alarm the Sunni population or the Pakistani State. Pakistan is the second largest Muslim country in the world and it can continue with its current trajectory of Saudi-led Takfirsim or dominance of Deobandi-Salafi ideology if it wishes to. The creation of a new Shia multicultural state will eventually solve the problem of Takfiri violence, Takfirims etc in Pakistan. It will intensify the Shias and other persecuted groups sense of responsibility and deepen their patriotic feeling.

[[3c]] Thus, possessing full opportunity of development within the body politic of Pakistan, the Shia multicultural province may be the only way forward. Nor should the Hindus, Sunnis, Ahmadis, Christians fear that the creation of autonomous Shia Muslim states will mean the introduction of a kind of religious rule in such states. The truth is that Islam is not a Church. It is a State conceived as a contractual organism long before Rousseau ever thought of such a thing, and animated by an ethical ideal which regards man not as an earth-rooted creature, defined by this or that portion of the earth, but as a spiritual being understood in terms of a social mechanism, and possessing rights and duties as a living factor in that mechanism. I therefore demand the formation of a consolidated Shia Muslim multicultural State in the best interests of Pakistan and the new State.

[[4]] Federal States

[[4a]] Thus it is clear that in view of Pakistan’s infinite variety in climates, races, languages, creeds and social systems, the creation of autonomous States, based on the unity of language, race, history, religion and identity of economic interests, is the only possible way to secure a stable constitutional structure in Pakistan. It may invovle the abolition of the National Assembly as a popular assembly, and makes it an assembly of the representatives of federal States. I demand a redistribution of territory on the lines which I have indicated. I venture to suggest that the redistribution must fulfill two conditions. It must precede the introduction of the new constitution, and must be so devised as to finally solve the communal problem. Proper redistribution will make the question of joint and separate electorates automatically disappear from the constitutional controversy of Pakistan. It is the present structure of the provinces that is largely responsible for this controversy.

[[4b]] Pakistan is a land of racial and religious variety. Add to this the general discrimination and target killing of Shia Muslims, you will begin to see clearly the meaning of our anxiety to have an autonomous state. In such a country and in such circumstances territorial electorates cannot secure adequate representation of all interests, and must inevitably lead to the creation of an oligarchy.

[[5]] Federation As Understood in the Simon Report

[[5a]] No doubt, there is in Pakistan the principle of Federation, yet the evaluation of this principle is determined by considerations wholly different to those which determine its value in the eyes of Shia Muslims. The Shia Muslims demand federation because it is pre-eminently a solution of Pakistan’s most difficult problem, i.e. the sectarian and takfirism problem.

[[5b]] To my mind a unitary form of government is simply unthinkable in Pakistan. What is called “residuary powers” must be left entirely to self-governing States, the Central Federal State exercising only those powers which are expressly vested in it by the free consent of federal States. I would never advise the Shia Muslims of Pakistan to agree to a system, which virtually negatives the principle of true federation, or fails to recognise them as a distinct political entity. However, we cannot afford to give [an] overwhelming majority to the Sunnis in an All-Pakistan Federal Assembly.

[[6a]] It appears to me that the Sunni-Shia differences regarding the ultimate form of the Central Government may be cleverly exploited by the current rulers who see in the scheme prospects of better security for their despotic rule.

[[6b]] The best course, I think, would have been to start with a Pakistani Federation only. A federal scheme born of an unholy union between democracy and despotism cannot but keep Pakistan in the same vicious circle of a unitary Central Government. Such a unitary form may be of the greatest advantage to the federal government, to the majority community in Pakistan; it can be of no advantage to Shia Muslims, unless they get majority rights in at least Eastern part of the Sariaki Waseb provinces with full residuary powers, and one-third share of seats in the total House of the Federal Assembly. In so far as the attainment of sovereign powers by the Pakistani provinces is concerned, the position is unassailable. The questions is not one of [the] Shia Muslim share in a Pakistan Assembly, but one which relates to representation of Shia Muslims in an the Federal Assembly. Our demand for 33 per cent must now be taken as a demand for the same proportion in the Federal Assembly.

[[7]] The Problem of Defence

[[7a]] The control and direction of the defence army must rest in the hands of agents of the Federal Government.” Now, does it [not] necessarily follow from this that further progress towards the realisation of responsible government in Pakistan is barred until the work of defence can be adequately discharged without the help of Pakistani officers and troops? As things are, there is a block on the line of constitutional advance. Further to fortify thee argument they emphasize the fact of competing religions and rival races of widely different capacity, and try to make the problem look insoluble by remarking that “the obvious fact that Pakistan is not, in the ordinary and natural sense, a single nation.”

[[7b]] However, in federated Pakistan, as I understand federation, the problem will have only one aspect, i.e. external defence. However, given that both Pakistan and India will be guarantors and protectors of the new State, no big army will be needed.

[[8]] The Alternative

[[8a]] I have thus tried briefly to indicate the way in which the Shia Muslims of Pakistan ought, in my opinion, to look at the two most important constitutional problems of Pakistan. A redistribution of Pakistan, calculated to secure a permanent solution of the communal problem, is the main demand of the Shia Muslims of Pakistan. If, however, the Shia Muslim demand of a territorial solution of the communal problem is ignored, then I support, as emphatically as possible, the Shia all Shia activits and groups in Pakistan and also internationally. The Shia Muslims of Pakistan cannot agree to any constitutional changes which affect their majority rights, or [which] fail to guarantee them 33 percent representation in any Central Legislature. There were two pitfalls into which Shia Muslim political leaders may fall. The first is the false view of Pakistani nationalism which deprived the Shia Muslims of chances of acquiring any political power in Pakistan. The second is the narrow-visioned sacrifice of Islamic solidarity, in the interests of what may be called Punjab ruralism, resulting in a proposal which virtually gives the Punjab Sunni-Deobandi-Wahhabi Muslims to a position of majority. It is the duty of the League to condemn both the Pact and the proposal.

[[8c]] Nor can the Shia Muslims agree to any such changes which fail to create at least one separate province in upper Sindh, lower Punjab.

[[8d]] As to the Kurram Agency, particularly Parachinar, it is painful to note that the Pakistan government has practically denied that the people of this province have any right to reform. Political reform is light, not fire; and to light every human being is entitled, whether he happens to live in a powder house or a coal mine. Brave, shrewd, and determined to suffer for his legitimate aspirations, the Afghan is sure to resent any attempt to deprive him of opportunities of full self-development. What has recently happened in that unfortunate province is the result of a step-motherly treatment shown to the people since the introduction of the principle of self-government in the rest of Pakistan. Indeed the Afghan is, by instinct, more fitted for democratic institutions than any other people in Pakistan.

To force keep a homegenous Pakistan, or to apply to its principles and laws, is unwittingly to prepare her for a civil war. As far as I can see, there will be no peace in the country until the various peoples that constitute Pakistan are given opportunities of free self-development on modern lines without abruptly breaking with their past.

No Shia Muslim politician should be sensitive to the taunt embodied in that propaganda word – communalism or sectarianism – expressly devised to exploit, and to mislead people into assuming a state of things which does not really exist in Pakistan. Great interests are at stake. We are 20-25 millions, and far more homogeneous than any other people in Pakistan. Indeed the Shia Muslims are the only Pakistani people who can fitly be described as a nation in the modern sense of the word.

[[9a]] It is hardly necessary for me to add that the sole test of the success of our delegates is the extent to which they are able to get the non-Shia Muslim minorities to agree to our demands. If these demands are not agreed to, then a question of a very great and far-reaching importance will arise for the community. Then will arrive the moment for independent and concerted political action by the Shia Muslims of Pakistan. If you are at all serious about your ideals and aspirations, you must be ready for such an action. Our leading men have done a good deal of political thinking, and their thought has certainly made us, more or less, sensitive to the forces which are now shaping the destinies of peoples in and outside Pakistan. But, I ask, has this thinking prepared us for the kind of action demanded by the situation which may arise in the near future?

[[9b]] Let me tell you frankly that, at the present moment, the Shia Muslims of Pakistan are suffering from two evils. The first is the want of personalities. The Shia community had failed to produce leaders. By leaders I mean men who, by Divine gift or experience, possess a keen perception of the spirit and destiny of Islam, along with an equally keen perception of the trend of modern history. Such men are really the driving forces of a people, but they are God’s gift and cannot be made to order.

[[9c]] The second evil from which the Shia Muslims are suffering is that the community is fast losing what is called the herd instinct. This [loss] makes it possible for individuals and groups to start independent careers without contributing to the general thought and activity of the community. We are doing today in the domain of politics what we have been doing for centuries in the domain of religion. But sectional bickerings in religion do not do much harm to our solidarity. They at least indicate an interest in what makes the sole principle of our structure as a people. Moreover, the principle is so broadly conceived that it is almost impossible for a group to become rebellious to the extent of wholly detaching itself from the general body of Islam. But diversity in political action, at a moment when concerted action is needed in the best interests of the very life of our people, may prove fatal.

[[9d]] How shall we, then, remedy these two evils? The remedy of the first evil is not in our hands. As to the second evil, I think it is possible to discover a remedy. I have got definite views on the subject; but I think it is proper to postpone their expression till the apprehended situation actually arises. In case it does arise, leading Shia Muslims of all shades of opinion will have to meet together, not to pass resolutions, but finally to determine the Shia Muslim attitude and to show the path to tangible achievement. In this address I mention this alternative only because I wish that you may keep it in mind and give some serious thought to it in the meantime.

[[10]] The Conclusion

[[10a]] Gentlemen, I have finished. In conclusion I cannot but impress upon you that the present crisis in the history of Pakistan demands complete organisation and unity of will and purpose in the Shia Muslim community, both in your own interest as a community, and in the interest of Pakistan as a whole. We have a duty towards Asia, especially South Asia. And since 30-35 millions of Shia Muslims along with other persecuted communities in a single country constitute a very large population, we must feel very confident and proud. Our duty towards our own community and the region cannot be loyally performed without an organised will fixed on a definite purpose. In your own interest, as a political entity among other political entities, such an equipment is an absolute necessity.

[[10b]] Our disorganised condition has already confused political issues vital to the life of the community. I am not hopeless of an intercommunal understanding, but I cannot conceal from you the feeling that in the near future our community may be called upon to adopt an independent line of action to cope with the present crisis. And an independent line of political action, in such a crisis, is possible only to a determined people, possessing a will focalised by a single purpose. Is it possible for you to achieve the organic wholeness of a unified will? Yes, it is. Rise above sectional interests and private ambitions, and learn to determine the value of your individual and collective action, however directed on material ends, in the light of the ideal which you are supposed to represent. Pass from matter to spirit. Matter is diversity; spirit is light, life and unity.

(Based on Dr. Muhammad Iqbal’s Presidential Address to the 25th Session of the All-India Muslim League on 29 December 1930, at Allahabad, India.)

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  • Shia brothers must not lose heart. Your Sunni brothers will never leave you alone in your genocide by Takfiris.

  • @Mussalman, TUM SAUDI ARABIA CHALAY JAO!

    i like the idea of Hussainistan. If it really works the way being stated in words. Would Hussainistan give citizenship to Sunni-moderates too?

    • you shite only 3 percent only can dream .v r going soon to build another strong hold near iran boder asunny province inbaluchistan first save hazara in quetta. down with barelvi mushrik, shia kafir.

  • Pathetic to see Shias being persecuted in a nation that was founded for Muslims. Pakistan has become a nation whose political ambitions are killing its ideological ambitions.

  • @Mussalman,sharam tum ko maghr nhe ate,naam rakha musalman, kaam,darendoin jesa, shia aur sunni mel k takfiroin ko kahe alag provice alocate krin,jahan ye apne khabasat(cutting heads of humans) dil khool k purey kriengi,

  • If 2 million Shias of Karachi and one million Shias of Lahore migrate to Multan, Bahawlpur and Rahimyar Khan, the new province and the potential new state can become a reality.

    It’s difficult but seems to be only way out to stop Shia genocide by State supported Takfiris.

  • I am from India and when i read that you propose it to be a scientific state, i could not believe that someone from Pakistan could say such a thing. Absolutely superb!
    If you are successful in creating a state based on science, I am perfectly happy living here in India but will myself migrate to your nation and live there.
    Very few Muslims in the whole realize the reality of the fact that what state based on secular,liberal and scientific progress can give us. That is, Internal peace and pleasure. Enough of “my God better than you”. Everybody wants religion but they do not understand that religion is messing us up for thousand of years. Its time to make it a personal matter. very good. I as a Hindu living a happy life in Rajasthan,India would like to migrate to Amanistan.

  • What a stupid proposition..There is no Shia genocide.. We are all Pakistanis and one… we cant keep dividing Pakistan… We will live together… We just need to nut out the stupid mindset prevailing in Pakistan’s institutions. Unity is 10 steps up; difficult, but division is free fall, you collapse when you hit the ground…

  • Salam to All Shia Brothers and Sisters, this guy Abdul Nisha Puri is a “Hindhu Indian” whose exploiting people in the name of Shia and spread sectarian hate. He is doing this as a revenge for his father and 2 brothers arrest by Pakistan police because they had raped a teenage girl. Please avoid being used by him in the name of shia. He have tens of fake profiles too

    • Salam to All Shia Brothers and Sisters,….do u think Eliya Hazara??? all the sunnies of the world are not Muslims????? there are only 15 crore shias and 150 crore sunni muslims in the world. Khana kaaba is governed by Sunni Muslims. do u meant its not a Muslim state and governance????? think about your attitude for Islam and for Muslims and for Sunnis

  • Yaar Aap Iran Jao aur Wahan Se Sunni Yahan Migrate Ho Jayein..aur Jahan Tak Aap ne yeh Line Khenchi hai..Sirf Parachinar mai Shia hungey magar 4 taraf se Sunni hain aur Gilgit mai bhi 30 % Shia 30 % Sunni 20 % Ismailia aur 10 % NOOR bAKSHI Hain aur agar aap Ismaili ko bhi Shia samajhtay hain tou woh Shiyuun ki nisbat sunniyun ko zyada pasand karte aur yeh multan aur rajhistan belt ko kaise apni banaya aap logoon ne??afsoos hai..behtar hai iran jao

  • Did you know citizens of Gilgit Batlistan and Azad Kashmir can go to India and get Indian passports since India considers these region as integral part of it?
    though we are against India on the matter of Kashmir, there have been some incidents after the Kohistan, Chilas and Basuar massacres of some citizens of Baltistan crossing into India and applying for Indian passports and their cases are under study

    http://www.facebook.com/PoliticalShiaPakistan/posts/10151129575693059

  • salam

    pakistan ke waris
    aj la-waris

    pakistan banane mai shio ka b khoon bhaa hai,

    aur sunni hamare bhai hamare sathi hai,
    hum q alag ke demand kare???

  • Hussaini Voice
    5 hours ago via mobile
    “Shias are being killed
    in their own country,
    Pakistan will break”
    Allama Zameer Akhtar Naqvi

    ZAKIR E AHLY E BAIT a.s,
    MOHSIN E MILLAT E JAFFERIA,
    DR. ALLAMA SYED ZAMEER AKHTAR NAQVI
    A famous and sound Islamic Scholar as well as a religious orator Allama
    Zameer Akhtar Naqvi severely criticized the state and the non state
    actors on the issue of Shia Genocide which is currently eating the country in slow bits.

    He warned the military, police, the state and the political parties that if
    Shia Genocide is not countered, the country will break apart.

    Allama Zameer Akhtar Naqvi, while referring to the Shias residing globally that Shias as a sect should not be taken lightly, where if the Shia
    Genocide in Pakistan is not stopped, the Shias residing globally would also react to the scenario. He said that the
    paper work has been done and has been sent to Shias globally stating that we are being killed in Pakistan. The only thing left is to write to the highest state authorities globally. We can make the United Nations hold a commission in favor of this prosecution being
    carried out in Pakistan. He also stated that we as a whole will be accepted by the world because we favor peace.

    He later put emphasis on the fact that Pakistan was founded by a Shia (hence we Shias have made it). The Shias invested and still are investing in Pakistan. Shias are being killed in their own state and if this fails to stop, the country would suffer a break down of itself.

    He also highlighted a very strong point that Iran is being weakened by killing the Shias in Pakistan, the western countries state that they will lead an attack on Iran, where the aim of the attack would be to weaken a Shia state. We dare someone attack Iran.

    Naqvi, referring to the anti-state terrorists Taliban (Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipah-e-Sahaba) that if they want
    to fight, they must fight on the front. They should keep a weapon for them
    and should hand a weapon to us, then they will know what war actually is.

    Allama Zameer Akhtar Naqvi’s statements are some of the most
    important statements made by any religious scholar in the history of
    Pakistan concerning Shia Genocide.
    Every element of the Shia masses should merge into a sole voice to tell the government institutions and the
    non-official influences that the Shias would not tolerate this issue for far
    long. The legislature must be informed that a Shia of this country can not tolerate Shia Genocide any longer.

  • Tum Log sunnio main tafreek dalny ki nakam napak koshish na kro. 4 imamon main say kisi ka bi pairokar sunni kehlata hy.
    Sunni zindabad.
    All of sunni love ahle bait R.a including Sahaba karam R.a.
    Pakistan main kahin jaga ni mily gi tum logon ko; agar itni takleef hy to Iran chaly jao.
    Pakistan paindabad.

  • Dear,

    I am Shia lives in Pakistan . I hate to see this article . I ts a non-sense article . These type of maps must be removed and I request to remove it . In the same time I know state is killing Shia . But this type of things will help SSP and others in their clame .

    Iran will not accept us bcoz they are Irani First than shia.

    We need to be Shia only and try to live with most of the sunnis around . This Shia killing are mostly political in nature and to give SaudiArabia their return of Money .

    We must need to get more Strong. This type of Maps wont help . This is a thinking of some Idiot Person , who is not known to reality . Remove it . you dont live in one nation country . Their are lot of Communties lives in PAkistan like Punjabi, Sindhi and all. you can’t create one nation in this .

    You will say That we are bounded by one Hussain (A.s) , but when we are not one on Muhammad (pbuh) in pakistan ,how can we be one .

    You see punjabi Imam bara , sindhi peer , Khoja Jullos .

    All we need to do is to get stronger .

  • I’m a proud deobandi muslim and this is one of the most disgusting thing i’ve ever read.

    • Deobandi Muslim what is that? no such thing exists? In fact the terms Deobandi and Muslim are Oxymoronic to one another.

      • MUslim>?? not like such thing as kuran exists – if it does — its all a 1400 year lie.

  • i fully support this comment

    “Mehdi Abbas says:
    November 24, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    Dear,

    I am Shia lives in Pakistan . I hate to see this article . I ts a non-sense article . These type of maps must be removed and I request to remove it . In the same time I know state is killing Shia . But this type of things will help SSP and others in their clame .

    Iran will not accept us bcoz they are Irani First than shia.

    We need to be Shia only and try to live with most of the sunnis around . This Shia killing are mostly political in nature and to give SaudiArabia their return of Money .

    We must need to get more Strong. This type of Maps wont help . This is a thinking of some Idiot Person , who is not known to reality . Remove it . you dont live in one nation country . Their are lot of Communties lives in PAkistan like Punjabi, Sindhi and all. you can’t create one nation in this .

    You will say That we are bounded by one Hussain (A.s) , but when we are not one on Muhammad (pbuh) in pakistan ,how can we be one .

    You see punjabi Imam bara , sindhi peer , Khoja Jullos .

    All we need to do is to get stronger .”

    • absolutely agreed by my brother. he said rightly we must be a Proud Muslim first. Pakistani ….then we may be sunni shia punjabi or else. our objective is not to be strongest group in pakistan. but the strongest pakistan in whole world. people using such a dirty language against deobandi and sunni and shia and army ……whos cause they are serving to????? just to their bullshit zakir, maulvi or taut leader not to islam and pakistan and pakistan armed forces. we must ignore such averge thinking messages and people. we develop a well thought out cyber community where idiots must not find any space to chatter filth and garbage.

  • thats why we says “State should be free of religion” everyone should practice its own and its between person and its Allah (or GOD).State should be like mother who treat its citizen like Kids and treat all of them equally.Every one needs education,job,clean water,power,security,honor etc.; these are the basic requirement of every human being. For God sake, open your eyes and keep humanity first then keep your believe strong and let the other people with their believes. You will be answerable/accountable to your act in the day of Qayamat.

  • My Shia brothers and sisters,

    Come to India and live here peacefully. We have our share of problems but at least you will be safe and your children will have a better future.

    Bring everybody else with you who wants to come – Ahmadis, Hindus, christians, moderate sunnis… Everybody is welcome. We may not have a lot, but whatever is ours, we would love to share with you.

    – A teary eyed Hindu Indian

  • aray bhayion hum kahin jane wale nai,jo log yeh fazool khyal dil ma rakien hoye hain un k aba o ajdad b essi khayali pulao ko chakne ki arzoo liye mar gaye….hum sirf yeh keh rahe hain k agar hum uth gaye to phir kisi terorist ko chupne ki jagay nai mili gi…shia ka qatl e aam army ki policy hai ta k jin wahabio k dil army operations main chor choor ho gaye hain wo apne kalejay tandhay karay..es k baad ek din army un se kahi gi k bhai bhot ho gaya khatam karo es khel ko…aur phir jhootey deen firosh fatwa daingay k shia b musalman hain…..hum jane walo ain say nai ,agar yaqeen na ho to taliban se parachinar adventure k baray poocho.aur rahi baat Hussainistan ki to woh yeh k…Hussain sub ka…Hussain Insaniat k imam hain chahey wo zameen k kisi khitay ma b ho….

  • Founder of pakistan was Shia with other prominent shia leaders . The bad fish is Deobandi and Wahabi who are killing sunni and shia both . They have infitrated in ISI,Army and Judiciary . We should spend money to our security . we should prepare our suicide attacker and they will give them very good lesson .

  • Tum Israeel he jao. Pakistan Hum nay bnaya tha. Pakistan ko tum se pak karnay ka azm kiya hai hum nay. khoon kay aakhri qatray tk Sahaba ki Nokri karyn gay hum.

    Kafir Kafir Shia Kafir

  • Pehli baat to saab loog ya samaj ly jitni azadi shioo ko pakistan ma hai sahid hi kisi country ma hu gie….jiss tara in ka jalooso ka lia pura pakistan close kia jata hai aur inn ko security die jati hai……….iss ka beraks iran ma muslim ko azan dena ki ijazat nei,kisi ahla hakumati position per anaki ijazat nei ,iran ma jitna loogo ko death palenties hui hai un ma aksariyat sunnioo ki hai…. Aaj kaal jo kaam ya shia shaam ma kar raha hai iran ki madad sa loogo ka qatal e aam sahid hi tareeq ma bosinia ka ilawa kisi mulk ma iss tarahua hu…….phir aap iraq ko ly ly uder kafirro ko lana wala shia hai in ki mili bagt sa iraq taba hua…….muktasaran bas yeh kehna cahoo ga ka shia wo asteen ka sanp hai jiss na har door ma ummat muslima ko torna ki kosis ki hai….aap saab muslim countries per nazar dala waha jo bi trouble start hui hu gie us ka peecha aap ko shia ka hath zaroor nazar aya ga……………ALLAH pakistan ki hifazatfarmaya aur pakistan ko in kaffiro ka sar sa mehfooz rakha…………hamaa lahoooooo pakistan ka name ..

  • Instead of making separate state , shias form all over pakistan should vote for ulemas and representatives from shia parties like Majlis-e-Wehdatul Musleemen (mwm) , bycotting elections will give chance to debandi/wahabi like minded to in parliment and make anti shia / anti barelvi laws and constituions to further complicate things , shias of quetta should now vote for MWM representatives in the up coming elections so that shias may have voice in parliment and make proper anti terror laws and also get them implemented , so that shias can get compensation for the shohda and injured , so that shias can get there leaders like Ghulam Raza Naqvi and other boys of Sipha-e-Muhammad free from prisons .

    Second strategey is that shias should also make there own armed resistance group (Lashkar-e-Mukhtar Pakistan) and they should target all deobandi molvis in quetta , karachi , lahore , peshawar , rawalpandi , only than the enemy can retreat and run away .

    Act like Mukhtar and his soldiers and not like the people of Kufa and Sham .

    One last thing remember that people like Abdul Khaliq Hazara and Hazara democratic parties are no different from Landhianvi and malik ishaq , all of these are progency of Mawyia maloon and yeazeed maloon , Imam Hussain was not martyred because he was Arab but only martured because he was among AHLEBAIT , u r not being martyred because you are Hazara , Mohajir or Punjabi but only because u r Shia .

  • @Deobandi Soldier of Tahir Ashrafi

    tum mawyia maloon , marwaan maloon aur yazeed maloon ke najaiz aula ho , tumhara baap mawyia haramzada tha aur tum bhe zina ke pedawar haramzade ho ……….

    Syria me intervention iran nahi balke saudi arabia kar raha hai qatar ke saath , sumjh gai zina ke pidawar ………

    Sipha-e-Muhammad Pakistan zindabad .

  • I was born to Shiia family. But I say it loud and clear:

    No Shiia, no Sunni.

    Only Pakistani. May we crush these enemies of Pakistan who are doing the bidding of the ill-wishers of Pakistan. Shame on those takfiri/yazidis who kill other human beings in the name of their twisted imported (wahhabi) ideology.

    And to those who support sectarianism of Pakistan – you better watch out. We nationalist Pakistanis will hunt you down one by one.

  • And to all these bloody indian fools trying to be funny and smart-assed by saying “Shiia brothers move to india”

    i have a surprise for you. I come from a Shiia family -many of whom served in military. Trust me, if and when the next war happens with india (a big IF) we wont think Shiia or Sunni or Ahmedi. We will fight YOU. I know my uncle did. He flew over 6 sorties over your country skies in ’65 and ’71.

    No self-respecting Pakistani —Shiia or Sunni – would EVER move to hindustan –where minorities are treated even worse.

    PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

    Muslims — promote unity. Dont allow a tiny % of takfiris to spread fitna. Be smart!! Don’t do the bidding of our enemies

  • and one last thing — NO REAL Pakistani will ever allow the land to be divided. We Shiias are with our Sunni/Christian/Ahmedi/Parsi brothers. United we stand, divided we fall.

    I have never even heard of any calls for “Hussainistan” by anyone in Pakistan. This is the most ridiculous proposition ever. The main focus should be liberating Kashmir. It’s a noble cause.

  • کیسے احمق لوگ ہیں، پاکستان میں رہنے والے لوگوں کو لڑھانے کی ہر طرح سے کوشش ہورہی ہے، مگر حقیقت سب پہ عیاں ہے ایسا کبھی نہیں ہوگا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

  • yar humien to taras takfiri deobandio per ata hai k apne pakistan main yeh kai baar idps banay.in ki maoon ki shalwaray ghair mulki taliban k kamro main lataktay hain…yeh wahabi jin ka mazhab america k azadi k se baad ki paidawar hai.yeh kiya shia ko baagne per majboor kar sakte.in k maulvi b laal masjid se burqo main bhage hain.wo taliban jo os saudi hukomat k liye kaam karte hain jinke bank accounts israel k banks main hain…yeh aaye shariyat waley jin ki aurat namazoon k liye shalwarien nikaalti hain….hum shia al hamdullilah shariyat aur pakistan k muhafez hain…aur yaad rako wahabio agar pakistan ki hifazat hamra mission na hota to hum khamoosh kabhi na bat-tay.

  • Irani hakomat per wahabio ka ye aiteraaz k Iran main Azaan nai hoti jhoot hai….Iran k un elako ma jahan suni rehte hai azaanien aur musjidien subh kuch hai…shiaon k elaqo main sunni azan nahi jis tarhah pakistan main sunni populated areas main shion ki azaan nai hoti.takifiri deobandion tehran k shehr zafranieh ka chakar lagao kabhi k wahan afghani namz ba jummat parthe hain aur jin karegaroon k relitives afghanistan main marte hain to un k esaal sawab k liye zafranieh main sari afghani sunni marasim karte hain.agar kisi ko phir b shak hai,then i can help them to know and understand this

  • Yeh sab aik sazish hy Pakistan k khilaf. Pakistan ko gair musthkam kia ja rha hy yahan pr fasaad phela kr. Pakistan mai pichlay 66 saal sy shia or sunni ikthay reh rhay hain lakin pehlay tu kisi ny aisa mutalba nai kia. yeh aik yahodi sazish hy jo In Shaa Allah nakaam ho kr rahy gi. Hum iss mulak mai dushman ki koi sazish kamyab nai hony dain gy. Allah k bando tum log khud socho agar aisa howa tu mulk mai khana jangi lag jay gi or yeh mulak toot jay ga or iss mai rehny walon ki halat kutton jaisi ho jay gi hamaray 4 atraf sai India, Afghanistan, Iran, China ham pr toot parain gy hamaray dost hamaray dushman ban jain gy har mulak yeh hi chahay ga k yahan uss ki hakoomat ho kyon k hum in sab ki majboori hain. Khuda k bando hosh k nakhun lo or inn sab ko chor kr mulak k halaat pr dhyan do. Kia 2sri Countries mai shia or sunni ikthay nai rehtay?

  • No we don’t want anything like you’ve mentioned. These are your views only. Pakistan is not Sunni or shia. Please don’t create more divisions. All we want is religious extremists to be apprehended and extradited. And that is something that the majority of Sunnis, Shias and non Muslims want – all those who are peace loving and humane. That’s all, no separate country.

  • I don’t think it’s possible to achieve a state like that in Pakistan,as the majority in your proposed “Husseinistan” the Shi’a are a minority.Apart from the Gilgit-Baltistan,the Shi’a are a minority almost everywhere.I’m not even sure about the Gilgit-Baltistan region,as during Gen Zia’s time many Pashtuns were migrated there to change the demographics of that region.
    The best option available would be to migrate from Pakistan.
    Personally,I would suggest migrating to Iraq.I know some might be thinking why Iraq,as Iraq is also marred with sectarian violence.I’m actually thinking long term.Iran is already around 90% Shi’a,whereas in Iraq,the shi’ites makeup around 60% of the population.A large number of Shi’a migration into Iraq will change the demographics of Iraq quite dramatically in favor of the Shi’a,and will turn it into another predominantly Shi’a state with around 90% of the population being Shi’a. As a result you would have two 90% Shi’a states side by side,which will be a great boost to the Shi’as in the middle east,and will give them a real sense of security and freedom,and perhaps above all, power.

  • In pakistan& iraq sunnis kill shias, in india shia & sunni clash each other. West pakistani sunni regime has killed 3 million east pakistanis, Arab sunni janjavids of sudan have killed 2 million darfur sunni muslims, Alawi shias of syria have killed 1 lac sunni muslims. In egypt moderate sunnis are fighting agaisnt fundametalist. Tell me a single islamic country where peace prevails .

  • Pakistan is already a creation of a Shia muslim. Why is a new country needed then? The idea of a Shia province is good only on paper, I say paper because it cannot be followed in truth. 35 million Shias are deeply routed in the Pakistani society, they cannot be uprooted and settled in one place. The losses will be insufferable, as many would have to leave their businesses or jobs or lands that they have owned for decades, even centuries.
    Secondly, there is not enough space to hold 35 million people in one place. That would mean if you choose a city, say for example a district, what would happen to people already living there? who will pay for their losses due to forced eviction? the combined wealth of the Shias and Iran cannot bear this…it is economically impossible.

    • Fine I don’t disagree but if Iran claiming to be a Shia representative or a spokesperson stoops to below its salt of decency by being mum over genocide of Shias in Afghanistan or Pakistan over the pretext of unity and Maslehat then it has no write to call its self as such I personally as a practicing Shia have Major issues with the system of that country and that filthy mean illegitimate child who is the supreme leader, self assumed as he got that position not on basis of any competence or merit but by bullying his way to the top and brutally crushing more better rivals and opponents. At last is it economically possible for Iran to raise voice over Shia genocide and what the Taliban have done? If it is not feasible it is their own fault again as they fought the world so much that they have become a pariah and are only able to trade with a limited number of countries which are isolated themselves as well and that too not on favorable terms and definitely there is no question of raising voice for Shias in Places like Malaysia or Indonesia. Bravo Iran you blew it up.

  • Now more and more people are talking about the Sunni-Shia Two-Nation Theory:

    Posted on November 29, 2013 by omar

    Two Nation Theory Part X: Minoritizing the Shia
    Posted on November 29, 2013 by omar
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    Originally published at http://www.viewpointonline.net/site/component/content/article/38-bottomnews/3508-two-nation-theory-part-x-minoritizing-the-shia.html

    As the law and order situation deteriorates and confrontations become more common, moderates step in to suggest “compromises”, chipping away at various Shia practices and privileges one by one

    It is not new for religious leaders to insist that other religious groups are on the wrong path. In the Semitic (Judeo-Christian-Islamic) religious tradition, the lines between the “correct” religion and all others tend to be especially sharp. This tendency carries over into the various sects within the religions, with leaders routinely branding other sects as deviants and heretics. But what happens in practice in social life is notalways (or only) determined by religious fanatics. European societies, where church and state were heavily intertwined in the middle ages and persecution of heretics was routine, were gradually secularized; the practice of declaring other sects as heretics and burning them at the stake died out centuries ago, though anti-Semitism remained and had it climax just a few decades ago.

    In the Islamicate world, religion provided a critical early motivator and glue for empire building, but Islam did not develop a serious theory of politics and politics mostly developed from pre-Islamic Persian, Roman and Central Asian models. Shias did have a certain separate identity (though with great variety within the Shia tradition) and revolts occurred with some regularity in the first centuries, but the later empires were rarely concerned with regulating religious belief in the way the church tried to regulate belief in Europe for several centuries (the Safavid enforcement of Shia orthodoxy in Iran being an exception). In the Indian subcontinent, the Turko-Aghan invaders were mostly Sunni, but Shias joined the ruling class in the Mughal Empire and were rarely persecuted on purely religious grounds. Modernization introduced mass-based politics into Indian society and existing religious differences, British imperial policiesand emergent bourgeois politics combined in various proportions to lead to partition and the creation of Pakistan as “a Muslim homeland”. Jinnah and his fellow Muslim league leaders were mostly ignorant of Islamic theology and relatively unconcerned about sectarian differences within the Muslim community. But once Pakistan had been created, it proved easy for Islamist politicians (even those who had strenuously opposed Pakistan because they saw the leaders of the Pakistan movement as Westernized pseudo-Muslims) to grab hold of the “Islamic state” lever and aim for real power.

    For various reasons, they were attracted to fascist ideology and saw it as the ideal model for their imaginary Islamic state. And like all fascists, they were also quick to see the potential benefits of identifying a minority that could be scapegoated, bullied and used as a means to eliminate liberal and progressive ideals from society. The first to be targeted were the Ahmedis. The Ahmedi claim to Islam had been strongly contested by mullahs for decades and their numbers were small, making them an ideal target. In 1953 some unscrupulous Punjabi politicians and bureaucrats permitted hitherto marginal groups to launch a serious anti-Ahmedi agitation. When things got a little out of hand, the agitation wassuppressed, but the mullahs had tasted blood and seen how hatred against a small minority could be leveraged to get a seat at the table of power. They remained hard at work spreading anti-Ahmedi propaganda and laying the foundations for another more powerful agitation. In 1974 they tried again and this time Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto granted their wish, declaring Ahmedis as non-Muslims. Even so, in the 1974 amendment an Ahmedi could theoretically insist he believed in the finality of prophet hood and thus remain Muslim in the eyes of the law. But when Zia took over, he drove a tank through the Bhutto’s relatively narrow opening, adding detailed descriptions that ensured that all Ahmedis were well and truly excluded from Islam and also adding sections in the criminal code that criminalized any attempt by Ahmedis to conduct their religious practices in ways that resembled “Islamic practice”.

    The thing to note is the slow but steady amplification of this process. It was perfectly possible for an Islamist like Iqbal to sit with the Ahmedi chief in the Kashmir committee in the 1930s and for Jinnah to have Sir Zafrullah as his foreign minister and trusted aide in the 1940s. Even a politician like Daultana, who had a hand in the 1953 agitation, did not go around condemning Ahmedis as heretics from an official stage. But by 1974, major political parties could get together and vote them officially out of Islam. Even so, many of them did not imagine that in a few more years Ahmedis will no longer be able to describe their mosques as mosques and everyone in the country will have to sign a degrading and awful statement declaring Ahmedis as non-Muslims in the crudest and most insulting language. And how many people in 1980 thought that one day district magistrates will be on-call to demolish minarets attached to Ahmedi “places of worship” and gangs will invade cemeteries to remove Ahmedi graves and even dead Ahmedis from “Muslim graveyards”?

    Now some of the same people have similar dreams about another sect: the Shias. The Shia-Sunni clash is not new and some hardline Sunni groups have long regarded them as heretics. The theologians of Deoband, for example, have repeatedly issued fatwas declaring Shias as non-Muslims. But the reality of extensive Shia-Sunni peaceful co-existence (including intermarriage) in South Asian Islamicate communities kept their fantasies in check for a while. But just as the anti-Ahmedi leaders always knew what they wanted, someone like Maulana Shafi Usmani was always clear about his eventual aim in regard to the Shias. The Ahmedis were a priority, but they were never going to be the end of the matter. To make an Islamic-fascist Pakistan a reality, other “deviant” sects also need to be put in their place. Of course, they started small; for example, they made a ruckus at Jinnah’s funeral and made sure he got a “Sunni” public burial, forcing his sister to conduct a hurried Shia burial before they got their official hands on his body. But with time, the script becomes more and more explicit and hardcore.

    At first, when the extremist fringe demands that Shias be declared non-Muslims, the “moderate” parties do not make the same demand. But they are happy to provide shelter, support and bases for the extremists. Meanwhile, thousands of Madressas have been set up to propagate Deobandi theology and as their graduates establish street presence, they also become available to take part in rallies and agitations. Underground armed gangs carry out well planned killings and fight a shadow war against Shia groups while larger above-ground factions agitate with increasing vehemence against Shia rituals and beliefs. The rituals and beliefs most divergent from mainstream Sunni practice are selected for attack first, since even moderate Shias may be uncomfortable with some of them and most Sunnis will be suitably shocked when confronted with exaggerated details of the same. As the law and order situation deteriorates and confrontations become more common, moderates step in to suggest “compromises”, chipping away at various Shia practices and privileges one by one.

    Once compromise is accepted, new demands are raised. What was middle-of-the-road now seems extreme and the process accelerates with each violent confrontation. At the same time, normal social intercourse between the sects becomes colored by these events. People who had no wish to separate themselves as Shia and Sunni find this question staring them in the face. For example, whenever a boy wants to marry a girl from the “wrong” sect it is no longer possible to pretend there is no issue at all. And every time we decide NOT to pretend we further amplify the issue. Shia officials who take action against Sunni extremists run the risk of being targeted as sectarian. Sunni officials who fail to act against Sunni terrorists are blamed the same way by Shias. Gradually, some areas become no-go areas for the smaller sect. Ghettoization is followed by another cycle of attacks and further restrictions. This may sound fantastic to many people (and it may yet be prevented or reversed), but it is a serious mistake to assume that the Deobandi-Jihadi network does not have exactly these aims in mind. Take a closer look at their actions and it is crystal clear that they know what they want and what they want is not pretty.

    This process of anathematizing and ostracizing a minority is not new or unique. The history of anti-Semitism in Europe and in particular its most extreme form in Nazi Germany, provide a very detailed template for this sordid operation. It also provides a warning about where this kind of thing can end; not just for the oppressed, but also for the oppressors.

    It is not yet too late to step away from this course. But the deeper you dig, the harder it is to climb out. It is time to stop digging.

    http://www.brownpundits.com/2013/11/29/two-nation-theory-part-x-minoritizing-the-shia/

  • Two-nation theory 2.0: It is Sunni vs Shia this time around – by Kunwar Khuldune Shahid (Pakistan Today)

    Source: Pakistan Today, 22 Feb 2013

    It is Sunni vs Shia this time around.

    Even though the original two-nation theory drowned in the Bay of Bengal, some of the most illustrious seamen and fishermen still hog the coastline vying to unearth the theory from underneath the water. It is said of the theory that it didn’t even border on being watertight, and hence sunk with ease amidst the tsunami of 1971. And so after 41 years of staring at a gaping two-nation theory shaped hole with closed eyes, we now have its updated version that is significantly more impermeable than the original, which, if one were to be honest, would’ve drowned in a bathtub if one left the tap open for more than a minute.

    The original two-nation theory threw all the commonalities between Hindus and Muslims of the Indian subcontinent out of the proverbial window, and showcased the fact that Muslims and Hindus are ostensibly two different nations and can’t for the love of god, live together. Two-nation theory 2.0 not only makes a scathing mockery of that assertion, but unlike the first version it actually underscores two veritably separate nations who despite having the aforementioned commonalties, and more, are as distinct as a pack of hyenas and a flock of lambs.

    Unlike the Hindu-Muslim division, the Shia-Sunni divide is lopsided butchery. When juxtaposed with the genocide and massacre of Shias in Pakistan, the Hindu-Muslim differences in India seem like brotherly disagreements. And the Shia community in Pakistan can only envy the discrimination that Muslims face in India. Furthermore, while Muslims can – and do – live safely in India, it is quite obvious that Shias can no longer feel secure in Pakistan.

    When one community is being targeted, in what is barefaced ethnic cleansing, and the other community remains shushed about it at best and endorses it at worst, you know the division between the groups is unbridgeable. Those that coined the original two-nation theory overlooked the fact that believing in the same god and the same prophet might not suffice in uniting you into one nation, and that is the raison d’etre behind two-nation theory 2.0.

    Just like Muhammad bin Qasim’s imperialistic surge towards India in 712 AD is touted as the foundation of the Hindu-Muslim two nation theory, the Shia-Sunni two nation theory traces its origin back to the same epoch when Umayyads were busy sidelining the Shias in the hub of Islam. Their lead was followed appositely by the Abbassids, Ottomans and then the Mughals for the next millennium or so, as the Sunni hierarchies violently tightened screws on the Shias inhabiting their region.

    In the context of the Indian subcontinent, it was the Fatwa-e-Alamgiri compiled by Aurangzeb “the great Mughal emperor” Alamgir and Shah “the spiritual light” Wali Ullah, who should be dubbed the founding fathers of two-nation theory 2.0 in our neck of the woods – that brought together some of the most renowned kafirometres in the world to declare the infidelity of the Shias. Recent fatwas by the likes of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) and Darul Uloom Deoband are the offshoots of the aforementioned compilation of fatwas.

    The next father figure of two-nation theory in the Indian subcontinent is General Ziaul Haq, who hoarded Saudi riyals in exchange for granting the godfathers of Islam a playground to stage the two-nation theory 2.0 in all its blood and goriness. From the annihilation of 118 Shias in Therih in 1963 to the 22 massacred in Lahore and Karachi in 1978, Shia killings were witnessed before Zia became the caretaker of Islam as well. But it was under Zia that the two-nation theory 2.0 became ubiquitous in madrassas, Islamic Republic of Pakistan transmuted into Takfiri Deobandi Republic of Pakistan and Shia discrimination metamorphosed into Shia genocide.

    Modern day leading proponents of the ideology, like Malik Ishaq – acquitted more than 30 times over charges of homicide and terrorism – , Mahmoud Baber – “proud” murderer of 14 and Ahmed Ludhianvi – SSP chief and the embodiment of paranoia with regards to Shia – are the Jinnah, Sir Syed and Iqbal of two-nation theory 2.0. And these ideological guardians are hell bent upon creating a separate homeland for the Shias in graveyards all across Pakistan, which would rubberstamp their entry into heaven where God and his promised luxuries await them with arms wide open.

    More than 20,000 Shias have been killed in Pakistan ever since the country’s inception, with more than 500 being executed in 2012 alone. The back-to-back blasts in Quetta over the past two months, killing over 200 Shias prove the verisimilitude of two-nation theory 2.0, as reaction from majority of the other half of the community – more than 50 percent of which endorse the theory by declaring Shias as non-Muslims according to a PEW study – ran the whole gamut from indifference to complaints over traffic blockade.

    In a country where volcanoes of protests erupt over the killings of “Muslim brothers” in Palestine, Kashmir, Syria and Myanmar, the deafening silence from the Sunni half of the two-nation divide vindicates that Shias can no longer feel at home in Pakistan – the country whose founding father was an Ismaeli Shia himself.

    As two-nation theory 2.0 widens the gaping cracks between the two communities and lays the foundation of a Shia exodus, it won’t be long before Takfiri Deobandi heavyweights find another target in the Islamic Royal Rumble of Pakistan. Two-nation theory 3.0 could see the Barelvis under the gun, followed by other sects, as the religion of ‘piece’ keeps on throwing constituent pieces out of its anatomy.

    https://lubp.net/archives/245091

  • Dawn newspaper

    After yet another massacre in Quetta, this is time for Shias to leave Pakistan – by Dr Murtaza Haider

    It is a massacre alright. Takfiri Deobandi militants, aligned with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, are killing Shias by the dozens in Pakistan. So far at least 21,000 Shia Muslims, thousands of Sunni Barelvi Musilms and hundreds of Ahmadis, Christians and moderate Deobandis have been killed by Takfiri Deobandi militants of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (political front: Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat ASWJ).

    I was yet to compile the list of the 106 (mostly Shias) killed in the twin bomb blasts in Quettalast month, that the news of another bomb blast killingyet another 84 (mostly Shias) in Quetta came over the wire. As the Shia massacres in Pakistan gain momentum, the State, including the Superior Courts, appear completely impotent.

    In such troubling times some Shias may have a choice. They may sit and wait for a messiah or relocate to a Shia-exclusive enclave elsewhere, or to escape from Pakistan altogether. It may sound harsh, but it is an inescapable truth that Pakistan has been run over by the extremists and life is going to be even tougher for the minorities and moderate Sunnis in the near future.

    In the two consecutive months this year, bomb blasts have killed hundreds of Shia Hazaras in Quetta, a Garrison town where each and every street is manned by intelligence operatives. Still, the militants operate with impunity. Saturday’s bomb blast, which has killed over 80 and injured hundreds, occurred almost within a month of the last bomb blast that delivered even a higher death toll.

    Space is fast running out in Shia graveyards in Quetta. It may be the time for Shias to relocate to protect their next generation.

    Many naively believe that peace will prevail in Pakistan and Afghanistan after the scheduled withdrawal of Nato troops from Afghanistan in 2014. While I vehemently oppose prolonging the stay of the Nato forces in the region, still I believe this would spell even a bigger disaster for the minorities in Pakistan. The battle-hardened veterans of the Afghan war will return to Pakistan to target Shias, Ahmadis, and other religious minorities. Even Barelvis may not escape the wrath of the mostly Deobandi-led militancy.

    There are reasons for my pessimism. I saw the same happen in the late nineties when the Afghan war veterans were pushed into Indian-administered Kashmir. The resulting militancy left over 70,000 dead in Kashmir but failed to make any tangible progress towards the resolution of the dispute that has pitched India, Pakistan, and Kashmiris in a deadly decades old conflict.

    What looked like a gory beginning of a new millennium in Indian-administered Kashmir, the security landscape however suddenly transformed in 2002 when the militants started to relocate to Pakistan and Afghanistan to join the Pashtun Taliban. The result was a decline in militancy which is evident from the graph below that shows the drop in the number of news reports about militancy in Srinagar starting after 2002.

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    Source: Tabulations by the author using the Factiva (2013) database.

    A spike in militancy in Pakistan however is observed at the same time when militancy subsided in Indian-administered Kashmir. See the graph below that documents the number of civilians and security force personnel who became victims of terrorist violence in Pakistan. Since 2003, Pakistan has been the target of terrorism orchestrated by the very agents who once afforded the state its strategic depth.

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    Shias and other religious minorities are the most targeted in Pakistan. No city is safe anymore. The past few weeks saw the targeted killing of Shia lawyers, doctors, and other professionals in Peshawar. Shia legislators were shot dead in Pakistan’s largest city, Karachi. While the State is struggling to suppress violence against Shias, the deep-rooted support for militants in society and the inadequate judicial system in Pakistan has created the situation where hardly any terrorist has been convicted of sectarian or other terrorism in Pakistan. In the past few years, several known militants have been set free by the courts because of the archaic judicial system that is incapable of convicting those involved in the modern-day guerilla warfare.

    Some, not all, Shias have a choice. They can abandon the death traps in Quetta and Peshawar by relocating to the Shia majority areas in Karachi, Lahore, and other cities. A better option is to plead with the embassies in Islamabad for asylum for the Shia, especially the Hazara, youth.

    Seeking asylum abroad may not win the approval of Pakistan’s superior courts, who have recently mocked those who held dual citizenship. However, it is better to be alive in exile than to be splattered on a wall in Pakistan.

    Source: Adapted from Dawn http://dawn.com/2013/02/17/time-for-shias-to-leave-pakistan/

    https://lubp.net/archives/243613

    • jinah ka muamla allah per chor do…hamaara asal quaid jinah nahin balkay Muhammad (sallalah u alihe wasallum) hain.aur hamaara naara hai keh shia aur qadiani donon kafir hain

  • shia have absolutely no relation with islam.they do shirk and bidaa openly,they have no relation to islam

  • I’m shia but I don’t support this demand. My demand is that our army and government should respect the rights of shia and make a special army troop to kill terrorists,who are doing shia genocide.