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Only 50 percent Sunnis in Pakistan accept Shias as Muslims – Pew Survey

We are cross-posting an important article by Dr. Murtaza Haider in which he offers an overview of the Pew Survey data on “The World’s Muslims: Unity and Diversity” which was published less than a week ago (on 9 August 2012).

The results of the Pew Survey confirm what LUBP has been reporting in the last few years, i.e., a deeply ingrained hatred of Shia Muslims in Pakistan’s majority Sunni population (with some notable exceptions). This hatred of Shias (and also hatred of Ahmadis – only 7% respondents in Pakistan consider them as Muslims – and to a lesser extent hatred of Sufi Barelvis – only 70% respondents in Pakistan consider them Muslims) is found in all segments of society, including the educated, upper-middle class. No wonder Pakistan has the highest rate of target killing of Shia Muslims in the world at the hands of radical Sunni Deobandi-Wahhabi militants (at least 19000 Shias killed in last few decades) while the majority of Sunnis including many “noted liberals”, “Marxists”, “leftists” or “moderate” right-wingers remain either silent on State-sponsored Shia genocide or continue to misrepresent it in ethnic or sectarian terms. It is the same class which describes LUBP as sectarian only because this blog highlights Shia genocide as well as massacre and persecution of other disadvantaged groups eg, Ahmadi, Barelvi, moderate Deobandi etc.

The aim of highlighting the Pew data is to stir a debate on this tabooed and much ignored topic. Sunnis and Shias of Pakistan, particularly those of educated, upper-middle class backgrounds, need to more openly discuss each other’s beliefs and practices, and publish them in blogs, media, parliament, textbooks etc, not with a view to create more divisions or animosity but to create more informed understanding and acceptance of each other’s faith. Sweeping this topic under carpet and forging an imaginary one-Muslim no-sect identity is nothing but an illusion and a deception. Sunnis, Shias, Ahmadis, Sufis etc should more openly declare their faith/sect identity and be willing to understand and accept each other’s sects as equally legitimate interpretations and practices of Islam.

The full report (Pew Survey) can be downloaded from the following link:

PEW 2012 the-worlds-muslims-full-report

Dr. Haider’s column published in Dawn is reproduced below:

Who gets to be a Muslim in Pakistan? – by Murtaza Haider
Source: Dawn

If Muhammad Ali Jinnah were alive today only half of Pakistan would consider him a Muslim. The ethnic, sectarian, and tribal fault lines have reached such depths that the nation once founded to be the homeland of Muslims is now bickering over who gets to be called a Muslim.

The latest poll by the US-based Pew Research Center has exposed the depth of sectarian fault lines where only one in every two Sunni Muslims in Pakistan accepts Shias as Muslims. While many believed that such extreme sectarian views were held only by the fanatics lying at the margin, the Pew Center’s findings reveal that such intolerant and extremist views are in fact mainstream in Pakistan. Even Jinnah, a Shia Muslim and the founder of Pakistan, today would not have escaped the sectarian extremism in Pakistan.

Based on a comprehensive survey comprising face-to-face interviews with 38,000 Muslims in 39 countries and territories, the Pew Research Center paints a picture of the diverse religious beliefs amongst Muslims. The sectarian strife varies a great deal from Azerbaijan where 90 per cent of Sunnis believe Shias are Muslims to Kosovo where only 20 per cent hold the same view. In Arab countries where Shias account for fewer than 5 per cent of the population (e.g., Jordon, Egypt, and Morocco) the majority believes that Shias are not Muslims. On the other hand Arab countries with significant Shia populations, i.e., Iraq and Lebanon, show signs of sectarian harmony where overwhelming majority of Sunnis accept Shias as Muslims.

The same survey could not be conducted in India, Iran, and Saudi Arabia because of security concerns for the enumerators.

The seeds of sectarian and religious extremism sown by the late General Zia-ul-Haq’s regime are now bearing fruit in Pakistan making it an extremist anomaly even in the region. In the neighbouring Afghanistan, where successive wars have destroyed the physical infrastructure and the social fabric, sectarianism is much more contained than in Pakistan. Eight-three per cent of Sunnis in Afghanistan, contrary to only 50 per cent in Pakistan, accept Shias as Muslims. Even in Bangladesh, which split before General Zia’s regime took control, 77 per cent of Sunnis believe Shias are Muslims. Similarly, 40 per cent of Sunnis in Bangladesh and only 7 per cent in Pakistan accept Ahmadis as Muslims. The stark differences between Bangladesh and Pakistan are indicative of the sustained growth of religious intolerance in Pakistan.

Many in Pakistan would question the motives behind the Pew survey while others might question the robustness of results derived from a survey of few thousand respondents. Some would argue that such surveys by western organisations are intended to further exacerbate sectarian strife in Pakistan. Others would contend that results based on surveys are not credible.

It is rather odd to see such lame arguments being repeated every time new evidence is brought to bear on sectarian violence in Pakistan. It is more than convenient for those who benefit from the status quo to discredit reports by others while at the same time they do nothing else to verify these findings. It is extremely disappointing to realise that even after several thousand deaths in sectarian violence, independent studies of it, causes and motives do not originate within Pakistan.

Many in Pakistan mistakenly believe that survey-based research is not credible and maintain that unless the entire population is polled, the results would not be credible. For them findings derived from Gallup polls and Pew surveys are dubious at best. Again, this exposes the poor state of social science education in Pakistan. Across the globe most, if not all, economic and social policy is based on findings derived fromdata captured in surveys. Multi-billion dollar businesses rely on samples of 1,500 to 3,000 respondents to conduct market research and devise business strategies. Even census in most countries is not based on the entire population.

The confusion about basic research methodology exists even amongst university educated Pakistanis because they were not exposed to the fundamentals of research methods. However, this does not prevent them from using their ignorance to ignore the uncomfortable truth about the moral decay that now confronts Pakistan in its most violent manifestation.

As Pakistanis at home and abroad celebrate the Independence Day, they must ask themselves if they would like to live in Jinnah’s Pakistan or the Taliban’s Pakistan. In Jinnah’s Pakistan there is no room for sectarian bigotry or violence. In Taliban’s Pakistan violence will be the norm. In Jinnah’s Pakistan, “… you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship…  You may belong to any religion or caste or creed — that has nothing to do with the business of the State.”*

* Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali  Jinnah’s address to the Constituent Assembly on August 11, 1947.

Further readings

Just who is not a kafir? – by Amir Mir

Kafir factory: Shia kafir, Qadiani kafir – by Mohammed Hanif

Only 50 percent Sunnis in Pakistan accept Shias as Muslims – Pew Survey

Kafir kafir Shia kafir, jo na manay wo bhi kafir – by Zalaan

7 September 1974: When Pakistan formally became a Takfiri Republic

Takfiri Deobandi militants’ jihad against mushrik Barelvis and kafir Shias

Let’s burn a Shia mosque!

جو ہم کہتے ہیں یہ بھی کیوں نہیں کہتا، یہ کافر ہے

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  • “The seeds of sectarian and religious extremism sown by the late General Zia-ul-Haq’s regime ”

    This is probably not true. This began much earlier on possibly with Liaqat Ali Khan.

  • We have been warned already, within next 5 years one in every ten Sunni Muslims will think that Shia killing will be rewarded in afterlife.

  • the main reason why this fitna has arises is due to extremist deoband sect who thinks that only they are muslims but on ground realities, they are the real culprits!!!! its a bitter truth
    we can see and hear what happen in there madrasaas and masjids!!!
    they dont hesitate to call us bralevi kafir !!!
    i am an eye witness of this incident, in one of the jummah prayer i unfortunately go to a deoband mosque to offer prayer but soon after certain arguments the imam of masjid call bralevi and shias are the biggest kafir of this universe can you believe that!!!
    i have tell the whole story to my father that this is disgusting now to even offer prayer with jahil deobandi is their masjids!!!!
    the terrorist are bringing up in their masjids and madrasaas but no action has been taken by concern authorities
    talibaan who are supported by deobandi attacks our army but no action on the other hand has been taken!!
    deobandi you are the real kafir

  • Shia kal bhi kafir tha. .
    Shia aaj bhi kafir hai. .
    Shio k Kufr par jo Shaq karay wo B kafir hai. . .

    Q k ek seenay main 2 diL ho nahi saktay, .
    ye To Quraan ka Munkir . .
    sahaba e KAraam r/a ka Munkir. .
    Azwaaj e NABI s/a/a/w ka Munkir. .
    NAbi s/a/a/w k FArmaan ka Munkir . .
    Shia Agar musaaLmaan hai. .

    to BAqi sab Gher MusLim huay. .
    warna Agar NABI s/a/a/w k farmaan. .
    Unki Azwaaj unkay Ashaaab r/a say Muhabbat hai. .
    to Un kay Munkiro ko. .
    Shio ko KAfir manna hi paray ga. .

    Jinka Roza NAmaz kalma Nikah har Cheez ALAG. . .
    unka Deen b ALAG. .
    unka ISLAM say KoI lena dena NAhi. .
    unka Deen deen e Kufr hai. !!!!!

  • jo bhe shia ko kafir kahta hy wo khud bhe kafir hy. kyon k shia ka kalma ,numaz, hajj ,azan,sachy sahaba ko man na,jihad, zakwat,sub quran wa sunat k ain mutabaq hy.

    • hmre yahn fatwa hai k kafir k0 kafir kehna gunna hai or j0 musalman k0 kafir kahe w0 khd kafir hai. is se waze ho jata hai k shia is dunia ka galeez tareen or yahodi se b battren kafir hai. q k j0 SAHABA(r/a) ko kafir kahe or maa AISHA(r/a) ko kafir or bura bala kahe. w0 bala kese musalman ho skte hai. kafir kafir shia kafir jo na mane wo b kafir

  • If love of Ahlul-Bait is Kufr, I am a proud Kafir.
    If love of Ahlul-Bait is Rafz, I am a proud Rafzi.
    If love of Ahlul-Bait is unclean, I am unclean.
    If love of Ahlul-Bait is anything, I am anything.
    Allah has blessed Abul-Kasim-e-Muhammad (PBUH and His Holy Progeny) and those who love him (SAWAW), that is it.
    Allah-o-Akbar. Ya Hussein (AS).

  • The seed of sectarianism was sowed by Khomeieni when he declared Abubakr RA Omer RA Usman RA openly in kashful Asrar as Kafir naozibillah.

  • Bagharito aur Najdi jahanmio agar Shaba aur Khulfaiey Rashdeen ko na man na kufer hay to aur tumhain apnay haramzaday honay main koi sakh hay to himat hay to kaho jis nai Ameer ul Momeneen Hazrat Ali ko na manana aur un say jang ke to wo es kaienat ka ghaleez treen kafir hay……….himat hay to kaho…………halal zaday ho kaho……….verna tum sab haram zaday ho